Players deserve more than one game to prove themselves, the slate is clean under team Voss, can't see LOB getting dropped.

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Agree. They won’t drop him after one game especially after a win and especially when the effort was there. However, it will take a significant performance for him to not be the one that makes way when Walsh returns


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Aren’t we blessed.

Yep.
And Voss wouldn't have missed the shitting himself part.
If we had paid pick 110 for him people would be far more willing to accept he is no good.
Martin testing positive may have given him a reprieve for a week but i hope not.

O'Briens opponent was one of the better players on the ground in the first 20 minutes. To the point that the had to be moved to the other wing.
I don't buy this "cant change a winning team" stuff. You should be looking to improve every week. Whether you win or not. If you have a non contributor, you don't retain them because you have a win. Reward the players in the VFL who are performing to expectation.
The slate was clean 6 months ago. Not now.

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Drop Charlie avd Harry by that logic

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Actually, the point I was making was that both could go for Carroll and Dow. Neither had any real influence on the wings and they aren't raw recruits. Time to try something else.

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This is an interesting one because Newnes played on the wing in the VFL game, which indicates he is the back up wingman if we decide to drop LOB. Until Walsh returns, it may be a choice between LOB and Newnes.

Carroll’s bread & butter seems to be on the inside (although he appears to have some inside/outside balance in his game). It wouldn’t surprise me if Voss takes the same approach to Carroll as he is with Dow, ie. pick him when there is a role in the team that suits his game.

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Yes and that would be supported by my reading of Voss' statements re players roles. Dow as an inside midfielder will not be placed on the wing. He will be used where his strengths are and where he is most likely to succeed. I think Carroll did spend some time on the wing though in the internal praccy games. I could be wrong though. Who played on the other wing in the reserves against Richmond? Was it Cottrell?

Do you honestly think this is a SHOCK to Vossy (that he is suspect under pressure). The fact that he's playing in front of Dow, Carrol, Newnes and Philp, and the fact that Voss has had 5 months to look at him on the training track and the fact that he crumbled a few times in the praccy match tells me Voss is more open to giving him opportunities or giving him specific things to work on...I don't know what they are and purely guessing

I'm neither a harsh critic nor a huge fan of LOBs, just for the record...what I am is infinitely more confident of the "behind closed doors" rationale for playing LOB than I would've been with our previous "NFI with selection" coach

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Thats really good stuff " 99 " ..............Reckon Voss is over everything and not one scintilla escapes the bloke . No one pulls the wool over this blokes eyes . I have complete faith in the bloke .

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Because Setterfield is playing a different role. He is a defensive wing at the moment and his role is to hold the width to protect the opposition switching to the other side. Plus then double back in defence when the opposition has the ball and help out inside the defensive 50.

Its the role Kamdyn Mcintosh played so well for Richmond for years.

Not everything has to be about "run and carry and delivery inside 50". You need role players and I thought Setters was really good in his role for the team on Thursday night, so he stays in.

Is this the first time the word 'scintilla' has been used on TC? If so, well done

Go Blues!

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Correct. Carroll played wing against the Saints and had he not injured himself, I'd suggest he would have played there Round 1.

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It seems we have a defensive wing in Setterfield and an attacking wing in LOB.
I presume Newnes and Cottrell would be earmarked as defensive wings?
Would Carroll play attacking?

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Carroll did not play against the Saints. LOB & Setterfield were our starting wingmen in both preseason games and in round one.

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Well said Nick.

You're right, my memory is failing me.
He was injured before the Saints game. He was on the wing in the intra-club match.

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real chance against this side and to go 2 - 0

its only early in the season, but i have genuine optimism with our midfield set up, which has a flow on effect around the game. (I really cant sing the praises of Hewitt/Cerra to out set up enough, enormous difference - Recruiting get a massive tick from me)

carlton by 4 goals.

they seem to really struggle without bruce going forward ..

We should get some reasonably current intel from Ash Hansen, right?
I feel like we have the defensive capabilities to match their forwards.
Our forwards will need to lift.
The battle will be won or lost in the midfield which will be a great challenge.
My hope is that, win or lose, we (continue to) win respect for how we go about it.
I want to come out of this feeling like we are really moving forward.