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What position does the Club take on animal rights?

nck wrote:

I've never felt this way before but I think the only thing we can do is put our money where our mouth is. I've been an AFL Club Support member for about 15 years (counting me as a Carlton member) but I've sent an email to them asking how I can switch that to another club for a year, or to not be a Club Support member at all. I'll still attend, but this trainwreck of a club does not deserve any more than that.

We'll welcome you to the kennel with open arms :lol:

Shouldn’t have said anything.

Well you are the yes man

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smithy wrote:

This is the greatest thing this club has done for a long time, the silent majority have had enough of the constant bullying tactics employed by the pieces of shite that are behind the scenes pushing this non issue. This club has really grown some spine, so proud tonight. Now hopefully the rest of you that haven't already can see through the lie and foolish ideology of diversity and equality.

Nice parody. "Stop telling me what to think you bullies, P.S. if you don't agree with me you're a slave to dishonesty and idiocy".

The club statement was about as bold as the team's attacking play. Sort of hinting at a Yes but not wanting to commit. Hugging boundary line, kicking long to a contest.

I agree with most here that clubs shouldn't be expected to take a stance and should have made no comment.

Sweet Jesus

What has football become

How many votes does the club get?

Outrage for the sake of it

The Blues endeavoured to support all supporters by saying vote as you see fit

Why the @#$%&! should a football club embrace one side or other of a 2 sided NON football issue

I will vote yes

I don't want my club telling me or others how to vote

I want my club focussing on football

I want my club focussing on success

I want my club engaging with supporters and supporting them to vote as the supporter chooses

Leave the petty politics to Gillian and his mates at AFL HQ.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/carlton-blues/weak-hollow-disappointing-fans-condemn-carlton-on-marriage-equality-statement-20170920-gylk2b.html

How dare my club support freedom of choice!

"As a club, we respect that this is about personal choice, and as such don't intend to campaign on the issue..."

GreatEx wrote:

smithy wrote:

The only parody here is people like you; and your familiar feeble strawman attempts.

...we do strongly reinforce our Club's absolute commitment to equality - and a community that is free from any form of discrimination.

Author:	Wojee [ Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:20 pm ]
Post subject:	Carlton Statement re equality
bluedog wrote: What position does the Club take on animal rights? Probably the same as anyone who kicks a leather footy around.

Author:	bluedog [ Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:28 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Carlton Statement re equality
Sedat wrote: nck wrote: I've never felt this way before but I think the only thing we can do is put our money where our mouth is. I've been an AFL Club Support member for about 15 years (counting me as a Carlton member) but I've sent an email to them asking how I can switch that to another club for a year, or to not be a Club Support member at all. I'll still attend, but this trainwreck of a club does not deserve any more than that. We'll welcome you to the kennel with open arms ...and open legs?

Author:	bluedog [ Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:29 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Carlton Statement re equality
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2017-09-15/magpies-become-signatory-to-australian-marriage-equality

Author:	ColourMan [ Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:45 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Carlton Statement re equality
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/carlton-bl ... ylk2b.html

Author:	The Normal One [ Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:55 pm ]
Post subject:	Carlton Statement re equality
dane wrote: Shouldn’t have said anything. This. It's not the clubs decision, they should just refrain from comment. I'm sure not all staff will vote yes.

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Author:	bluedog [ Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:55 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Carlton Statement re equality
On the topic of equality, albeit not marriage-related, is there a need for separate men's and women's AFL competitions? Or does anyone here think that one day, there won't be a need for separate competitions? What does true equality mean? If separate male/female sporting competitions are usually based around strength/speed/endurance, why does the military pretend that differences in these areas do not exist between genders? I stand to be corrected of course.

Author:	idle [ Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:20 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Carlton Statement re equality
I support the clubs statement. Globalist agenda's should be kept out of sport.

Author:	CK95 [ Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:06 am ]
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kingkerna wrote: Well you are the yes man Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

Author:	smithy [ Thu Sep 21, 2017 5:30 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Carlton Statement re equality
GreatEx wrote: smithy wrote: This is the greatest thing this club has done for a long time, the silent majority have had enough of the constant bullying tactics employed by the pieces of shite that are behind the scenes pushing this non issue. This club has really grown some spine, so proud tonight. Now hopefully the rest of you that haven't already can see through the lie and foolish ideology of diversity and equality. Nice parody. "Stop telling me what to think you bullies, P.S. if you don't agree with me you're a slave to dishonesty and idiocy". The club statement was about as bold as the team's attacking play. Sort of hinting at a Yes but not wanting to commit. Hugging boundary line, kicking long to a contest. I agree with most here that clubs shouldn't be expected to take a stance and should have made no comment. The only parody here is people like you; and your familiar feeble strawman attempts.

Author:	Blue Vain [ Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:14 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Carlton Statement re equality
How dare my club support freedom of choice!

Author:	Ockham's Razor [ Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:21 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Carlton Statement re equality
Sweet Jesus What has football become How many votes does the club get? Outrage for the sake of it The Blues endeavoured to support all supporters by saying vote as you see fit Why the @#$%&! should a football club embrace one side or other of a 2 sided NON football issue I will vote yes I don't want my club telling me or others how to vote I want my club focussing on football I want my club focussing on success I want my club engaging with supporters and supporting them to vote as the supporter chooses Leave the petty politics to Gillian and his mates at AFL HQ.

Author:	rhino27 [ Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:58 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Carlton Statement re equality
Ockham's Razor wrote: Sweet Jesus What has football become How many votes does the club get? Outrage for the sake of it The Blues endeavoured to support all supporters by saying vote as you see fit Why the @#$%&! should a football club embrace one side or other of a 2 sided NON football issue I will vote yes I don't want my club telling me or others how to vote I want my club focussing on football I want my club focussing on success I want my club engaging with supporters and supporting them to vote as the supporter chooses Leave the petty politics to Gillian and his mates at AFL HQ. Best and most logical post ever!

Author:	AIRCAV [ Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:09 am ]
Post subject:	Carlton Statement re equality
ColourMan wrote: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/carlton-blues/weak-hollow-disappointing-fans-condemn-carlton-on-marriage-equality-statement-20170920-gylk2b.html The Age. Plumbing new depths in the name of journalism. A story that quotes 1 fans "outrage" at length, backed by a couple of tweets, then undone by just as many tweets in support of the club.

Author:	club29 [ Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:10 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Carlton Statement re equality
Tipping Kate Jennings will be rolled out today.

Author:	The 19 tram [ Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:42 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Carlton Statement re equality
I have voted. And voted yes. Now that that's out of the way I would much prefer my club get it's drafting and free agent strategy correct! I do understand that football is postmodernist religion, especially in Melbourne. But the various faiths and churches have managed to marginalise and persecute various groups for thousands of years. My football club just needs to stick to its core business and try to win football games. I think that the statement was good. Move on and make sure that the player they get with pick #3 plays 250 games.

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Author:	famousblueraincoat [ Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:10 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Carlton Statement re equality
So some people want to withhold their support for the club over that? Seriously..? FMD

Author:	bluegirl72 [ Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:38 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Carlton Statement re equality
Blue Vain wrote: How dare my club support freedom of choice! Wholeheartedly agree. Quote: "As a club, we respect that this is about personal choice, and as such don't intend to campaign on the issue..." I don't get how any org. can presume to speak for the body of it's members on a personal pref. postal survey. Now we have individuals at newspapers naming and shaming in full frontal bullying style.

Author:	GreatEx [ Thu Sep 21, 2017 8:59 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Carlton Statement re equality
smithy wrote: GreatEx wrote: smithy wrote: This is the greatest thing this club has done for a long time, the silent majority have had enough of the constant bullying tactics employed by the pieces of shite that are behind the scenes pushing this non issue. This club has really grown some spine, so proud tonight. Now hopefully the rest of you that haven't already can see through the lie and foolish ideology of diversity and equality. Nice parody. "Stop telling me what to think you bullies, P.S. if you don't agree with me you're a slave to dishonesty and idiocy". The club statement was about as bold as the team's attacking play. Sort of hinting at a Yes but not wanting to commit. Hugging boundary line, kicking long to a contest. I agree with most here that clubs shouldn't be expected to take a stance and should have made no comment. The only parody here is people like you; and your familiar feeble strawman attempts. Wow, it's the double whammy of "strawman" and "I know you are, but what am I?". Can't compete with that.

Author:	BoundaryRider [ Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:13 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Carlton Statement re equality
I vote YES, to our TC administrators deleting this thread entirely. I actually don't really care how anyone here voted when I jump onto TC.

Author:	Rexy [ Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:59 am ]
Post subject:	Carlton Statement re equality
Quote: ...we do strongly reinforce our Club's absolute commitment to equality - and a community that is free from any form of discrimination.