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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:26 pm 
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I reckon he'll dot the t's & cross the i's



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:27 pm 
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Terrific win. That game was totally gettable if we turned up switched on & played to a plan. We did!

Will be sensational for our momentum going into next week & 2017. Very important mental hurdle for the club in the big picture that...knocked off a side that had their tails up & everything to play for.

So glad we won....well done Blues.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 7:36 pm 
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We've won all the games, bar one, against sides at our level or below (3 if your included St.Kilda, who I considered a little above us). Even one above against Geelong. Probably could've done alot better against St.Kilda. Those 2 games and Brisbane were the real disappointments. Last half of the Brisbane game probably ran us into form despite the loss.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:09 pm 
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Good win! For some strange reason, i knew we'd win this.

- Cripps is a god-damn superstar........ Hasn't even played 50 games yet! back-to-back B&F and should get a look in at All-Australian.



I agree with this comment.

However, I don't even have expectations for All-Australian positions anymore. The voting from the same panel members they have had for the last 5 years have been consistently incomprehensible.

Cripps is EQUAL 3RD in the WHOLE LEAGUE in CONTESTED POSSESSIONS in one of the weakest team in the league (we lost to Brisbane after all).

The voters for All-Australian only look at the strong teams as other players can lift those players around them to look better than what they are. This lifts their stats. It is easier to rack up possessions in a stronger team.

Meanwhile...
Cripps 534 disposals
131 tackles
10 goals

and he is the biggest clearance player in the game.
20 more than Josh Kennedy.

Yet he won't even make the All-Australian squad when he should be in the final 22 for the A-A team. It confirms how irrelevant Carlton is as a team really that they will consistently overlook Cripps.

Think Simpson should make the 40 man All-Australian squad, purely for his crazy courage, but panel members wouldn't have viewed many Carlton matches to see Simpson in action.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:25 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 8:33 pm 
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CK95 wrote:
I reckon he'll dot the t's & cross the i's


i reckon he will sign the wrong part, having missed the place where he is supposed to sign

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:00 pm 
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tap in 79 wrote:
ryan2000 wrote:
Good win! For some strange reason, i knew we'd win this.

- Cripps is a god-damn superstar........ Hasn't even played 50 games yet! back-to-back B&F and should get a look in at All-Australian.



I agree with this comment.

However, I don't even have expectations for All-Australian positions anymore. The voting from the same panel members they have had for the last 5 years have been consistently incomprehensible.

Cripps is EQUAL 3RD in the WHOLE LEAGUE in CONTESTED POSSESSIONS in one of the weakest team in the league (we lost to Brisbane after all).

The voters for All-Australian only look at the strong teams as other players can lift those players around them to look better than what they are. This lifts their stats. It is easier to rack up possessions in a stronger team.

Meanwhile...
Cripps 534 disposals
131 tackles
10 goals

and he is the biggest clearance player in the game.
20 more than Josh Kennedy.

Yet he won't even make the All-Australian squad when he should be in the final 22 for the A-A team. It confirms how irrelevant Carlton is as a team really that they will consistently overlook Cripps.

Think Simpson should make the 40 man All-Australian squad, purely for his crazy courage, but panel members wouldn't have viewed many Carlton matches to see Simpson in action.



They'll give his spot to someone from North. Pricks.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:04 pm 
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Some of these accolades have less credibility than Spud Frawleys Golden Fist award.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:24 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
Some of these accolades have less credibility than Spud Frawleys Golden Fist award.

:clap: :clap:

I agree.

The only one I like is the AFL Coaches Association awards as they seem to have more clarity with the position of players chosen.
There are basically nine midfielders chosen in this team...but who knows. This is in the early stages as an award, so it might be aiming for similar levels of incomprehensibility as the All-Aust.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFL_Coach ... #2015_team


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:28 pm 
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CK95 wrote:
tap in 79 wrote:
ryan2000 wrote:
Good win! For some strange reason, i knew we'd win this.

- Cripps is a god-damn superstar........ Hasn't even played 50 games yet! back-to-back B&F and should get a look in at All-Australian.



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They'll give his spot to someone from North. Pricks.



I don't think so, they need to fit in 5 Sydney Swan midfielders, and 4 from Hawthorn and Geelong each, 2 from GWS etc so after they have gone through all the strong teams, they have no spots left for players who have shouldered the burden of playing above and beyond for rubbish teams.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:55 pm 
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I almost gave chestmark Jones a point this week! https://fansmvp.afl.com.au/carltonfc/vote/round

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 10:11 pm 
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famousblueraincoat wrote:
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Why was SOSs out today?


Anyone at all?


Allegedly "soreness"

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 11:01 pm 
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jim wrote:
famousblueraincoat wrote:
famousblueraincoat wrote:
Why was SOSs out today?


Anyone at all?


General soreness.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:49 am 
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Cunningham looks the goods
Graham handy
Buckley getting better
Phillips will develop into our number one ruckman


Good to see Melbourne pooh their pant when they are talked up


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:57 am 
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Just watched the replay.

I have been criticqal of the gameplan over the past two months because we haven't been playing rn and carry football. Yesterday they did for three and a half quarters. We had players forward of the ball and so Bukley and Simpson in particular were able to run with confidence. It makes a lot of difference as well when players are running defensively and carryingthe football through the half back line instead of chipping it sideways, waiting for the forwards to set up. Finally, Buckley, whose instinct is to run, was able to inject himself into the game whereas with the chip and mark game, he is stifled. he has always been quick but he hasn's been allowed to play to his strengths. Boekhurst would probably have played well in that environment yesterday as well. He is a good user of the ball when he gets it and can make space.

it was nice of Gibbs to turn up yesterday for one of his better games.
Credit to Kreuzer who held his own against Gawn. Gawn is not a run and jump ruckman and it suits Kreuzer to push and shove. He and Phillips did well between them. We need topersevere with Phillips, who will develop into a very good player. Some of his taps yesterday were first class and that mark and goal in the last was a beauty.

Pros:
Gibbs, Cripps Curnow clearances
Rucks
Run and carry both ways
Defensive swarm around the ball carrier and the ball receiver and tackles that followed
Levi and Jones making it hard for defenders to double team
Weitering being the general. He is already a leader.
Cunningham showed us some more of what he will be. I commented to Blue Beatle that he is bigger than I thought. He has a frame that can put muscle on.
Simpson again. Great captain's game.
Graham's two goals. There are plenty here who would have him ot of the club but he is a footballer. Some days the conditions are better and some days they aren't but he is a good depth player and we need them at least for the next couple of years.

Cons:
They reverted to the chip and mark game in the last. Melbourne kicked 2-6. 6-2 and we lose. Bolton will address that.

...............................................
I thought they would lose because of the style of game they have been playing. That they brought their running game and intensity set up a good win against a team that we will be competing against over the next few years as we both move up the ladder. That they won without SOS, Curnow and Murphy made it more memorable.

If they take that game into next week, we win by 50. Not a bad way to finish an up and down season on the park but an overall up season for the club as an entity.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:02 am 
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Cunningham looks the goods
Graham handy
Buckley getting better
Phillips will develop into our number one ruckman


Good to see Melbourne pooh their pant when they are talked up


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:05 am 
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the thing i liked most about this win was the physicality and grunt directed to the opposition player, starting with buckley in the first few minutes of the game. i know it was only melbourne, but i felt the players really tried to intimidate melbourne a bit and gave their players a good old roughing up.

it was nice to see solid bumps, aggression and tackles that stuck

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:21 am 
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Dominator_7 wrote:
My Dees supporting father in law has been all chat all week.
Strangely went missing (much like his football team) when I game him a 'friendly' call post siren.



It was my Dees supporting father in law's birthday yesterday, and we had him over for dinner.

Got the kids to say Happy Birthday Grandpa followed by DA DADA DADA...

He's not one to rub it in so I went easy on him.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:21 am 
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Taff wrote:
famousblueraincoat wrote:
famousblueraincoat wrote:
Why was SOSs out today?


Anyone at all?


Allegedly "soreness"


Late to training ?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:43 am 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
Just watched the replay.

I have been criticqal of the gameplan over the past two months because we haven't been playing rn and carry football. Yesterday they did for three and a half quarters. We had players forward of the ball and so Bukley and Simpson in particular were able to run with confidence. It makes a lot of difference as well when players are running defensively and carryingthe football through the half back line instead of chipping it sideways, waiting for the forwards to set up. Finally, Buckley, whose instinct is to run, was able to inject himself into the game whereas with the chip and mark game, he is stifled. he has always been quick but he hasn's been allowed to play to his strengths. Boekhurst would probably have played well in that environment yesterday as well. He is a good user of the ball when he gets it and can make space.

it was nice of Gibbs to turn up yesterday for one of his better games.
Credit to Kreuzer who held his own against Gawn. Gawn is not a run and jump ruckman and it suits Kreuzer to push and shove. He and Phillips did well between them. We need topersevere with Phillips, who will develop into a very good player. Some of his taps yesterday were first class and that mark and goal in the last was a beauty.



Blue hat, I noticed you wrote that we can't run and carry because we dont have players in front of the ball last week and now backed it up again this week.
In my opinion we should run and carry because we don't have players in front of the ball. That is the name of the game. Push back and then run hard with it. Sharing it around.
It has been a problem for the last month that we were lazy and bombing down the line to casboult instead of taking the game on. Last week in the second half we changed that and started handpassing and running. Hopefully told by the coaches that if they stuff it up this way they will forgive them rather than than dumping the ball every chance we could get. Yesterday in the first half we ran every chance. Simmo let us down a few times early with dump kicks but he fixed it up as the game went on.
Gibbs and Krooze also eliminated the random kick out of stoppage that usually ends up killing us. Instead choosing to at least attempt to get a handpass chain going. All this was for the better.

From what I saw sitting up high in the stands was that our run and carry had nothing to do with having players ahead of the ball. In fact in this regard I noticed little different than previous weeks.

The run and dare and courage to take the game on was great to watch and it all but eliminated the need to have Casboult pushing up around the wing apart from having him as a decoy as oppo scouts would know we are often lazy and dump it to him.

So if you see us running the ball out of the back fifty with hand passes early coupled with lowering the eyes when going inside 50 then you know we are going to be competitive.

If you see us dumping the ball out of our defensive 50 and also into our own fifty then we are in for a long day.


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