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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:32 pm 
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We're to be applauded for our effort seeing as we nearly toppled last years Grand Finalist despite being hugely inexperience in terms of total games at AFL Level (SOS, C, Curnow, Weitering, Jacksh, Sumner, Phillips, Plowman, Buckley, Graham, Kerridge and Lamb all played less than 20-25 games)

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:34 pm 
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Curnow could be anything as long as he has the application
Silvagni so smart. Watch how he blocks his man from spooling Weiterings second mark and goal
Kreuzer is a liability. Casboult is a better option.
Kerridge needs lots of reflex work. Fu..fu..fumbles
White, Phillips and Kerridge are too slow at releasing the ball
White kills us with skill errors. Is there a replacement?
I hope Jacksch makes it and needs to play seniors but apart from one spoil seemed a little lost today and is in his 4th season. I thought he was on McGovern.
Umps gifted WCE a few but didn't think we deserved to win

How do you know what the umps thought?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:47 pm 
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Good effort as usual but basic errors and a general lack of class throughout the side always undermine the players' endeavour. Bolton said it best last week when he said that we can make the incredibly easy look incredibly difficult.

Can someone explain what, aside from a few one percenters and "heart and soul", Kreuzer actually gives the side? He just doesn't do enough and I think that has been a consistent theme for most of his career, and certainly in recent years. He pops up with a good game once or twice a year but other than that he is just kind of "there", yet for some reason seems to be treated by every match committee as an automatic selection when fit. I don't get it.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:48 pm 
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Heavs wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
Curnow could be anything as long as he has the application
Silvagni so smart. Watch how he blocks his man from spooling Weiterings second mark and goal
Kreuzer is a liability. Casboult is a better option.
Kerridge needs lots of reflex work. Fu..fu..fumbles
White, Phillips and Kerridge are too slow at releasing the ball
White kills us with skill errors. Is there a replacement?
I hope Jacksch makes it and needs to play seniors but apart from one spoil seemed a little lost today and is in his 4th season. I thought he was on McGovern.
Umps gifted WCE a few but didn't think we deserved to win

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:00 pm 
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Ah dang so bloody close I could almost taste it.

In defence of Kreuzer (yeah I know) I think he's lack of form is between his ears. The guy has had the horrors when it comes to injuries, and this is the first time in a long time he's actually stringing some games together consistently. Though he's not ripping teams apart and often times looks like he's doing very little, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt for the rest of this year AND next year to see if he comes good for us. If he can gain some confidence in his body, he may surprise us all and live up to being taken as a number one draft pick.

No complaints today (besides the third quarter) and thought we had a real crack at it. These younglings we've picked up show promise for the future and that's all that matters.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:07 pm 
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Question - what was the 50 paid to WCE in the 3rd quarter for? I was at the game and the ball was returned to the player. Did someone say something?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:07 pm 
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Plenty to like today.
Graham belongs - I don't care what anyone else says. Great 1st game back and well done young man to keep the faith.
Jaksch, Curnow, SOJ & Phillips must be persisted with for the rest of the year. Need Cassy to help them though.
I would like to know what was said to Gibbs & Cripps at half time - because it worked!!!!
Weitering is going to be a bloody star ..... how can you not love this kid.
Welcome back Bucks and Simmo you are a legend of this club !

Like others - our errors and turnovers kill us by costing easy goals on the rebound - hopefully that will be sorted.
I'm so sick of us being raped by the umpires.....


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:16 pm 
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Blues2005 wrote:
Good effort as usual but basic errors and a general lack of class throughout the side always undermine the players' endeavour. Bolton said it best last week when he said that we can make the incredibly easy look incredibly difficult.

Can someone explain what, aside from a few one percenters and "heart and soul", Kreuzer actually gives the side? He just doesn't do enough and I think that has been a consistent theme for most of his career, and certainly in recent years. He pops up with a good game once or twice a year but other than that he is just kind of "there", yet for some reason seems to be treated by every match committee as an automatic selection when fit. I don't get it.



Kreuzer's great as the sole ruckmen but is useless as tits on a bull when he has to share the duties. Seen that again this year as we have for a number of years. Why that is the case I don't know.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:19 pm 
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Pros:
We kept persisting & did not give up all day
Gibbs & Cripps almost dragged us over the line in a the last
Thought Graham got better as the game wore on and is pretty good at linking up. If he could find another yard or two of pace he would be a handy footballer
Simmo & Docherty have been supreme all year & Rowe/White whilst not world beaters were solid again
JW did what Levi has been unable to do for a long time - pack mark & then go back & slot it through the it sticks!
Charlie continues to show he belongs

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Turnover by young & old gifted the Eagles easy goals
Again l ask what did Kreuz actually provide today? Phillips much better
Lamb was poor & is the obvious player to make way for someone else.
Surprised at how lost KJ was particularly early. Persist for a few more weeks


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:29 pm 
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This was a bit of a watershed game I thought. SOS and Charlie in that last Q were really good....and just kids after all. SOS sticky finger marks under close attention were so good to see....we haven't had many players capable of that for a while.

JW on one leg....wow. Just a great reader of the play and pure skills. And he can kick ! I'd play him fwd for the rest of the year if possible, with probably Levi. Jaksch can stay down back with Plow and Rowe.

Cripps busted a gut 2nd half and he and Gibbs nearly won it for us, but in some ways losing is ok for draft picks :cry: We looked dangerous when we played on through the corridor in the last and probably caught them by surprise, as we'd been very careful before that, focussing on denying them the ball and switching play etc.

Umps were pretty crap all day, and WC were denied some glaringly obvious frees gotta say e.g. Darling decapitated...play on.....White drops it....play on. Probably about even over the day.

Simmo is having a late blossoming in a grand career, he has been simply sensational this year and must have one hand on the B&F ? Plow was very good again and has been the best of the GWS gang, and Docherty just keeps doing it every week :thumbsup:

Enjoyed the day pretty much after a very sluggish start.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:36 pm 
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jim wrote:
Blues2005 wrote:
Good effort as usual but basic errors and a general lack of class throughout the side always undermine the players' endeavour. Bolton said it best last week when he said that we can make the incredibly easy look incredibly difficult.

Can someone explain what, aside from a few one percenters and "heart and soul", Kreuzer actually gives the side? He just doesn't do enough and I think that has been a consistent theme for most of his career, and certainly in recent years. He pops up with a good game once or twice a year but other than that he is just kind of "there", yet for some reason seems to be treated by every match committee as an automatic selection when fit. I don't get it.



Kreuzer's great as the sole ruckmen but is useless as tits on a bull when he has to share the duties. Seen that again this year as we have for a number of years. Why that is the case I don't know.


I think it was because the ball was lobbed back to the player, rather than thrown in a more direct manner. It was pretty ridiculous, the umpire was being over precious.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:40 pm 
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It was amazing to see the enthusiasm and desire, mistakes not withstanding, Everritt should never get in that side again, he is lazy and turns up when he feels like it, I would much rather see one of the kids continue to get games into them rather than sitting in the VFL because of him.
Also nice to see a bit of run, we've missed that since Murphy went down, Kudos young Bucks, you belong out there son, a couple of games and you'll get a bit of your engine back

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:43 pm 
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Mark J wrote:
Phillips has gone past Kruez.


A long way past imo, is there anywhere else we can play Kruez, maybe in the back line somewhere, he seems to like running straight at the ball and started a chain in the last qtr that resulted in a goal from running straight at the footy and using it well

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:57 pm 
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Blues21 wrote:
Question - what was the 50 paid to WCE in the 3rd quarter for? I was at the game and the ball was returned to the player. Did someone say something?


According to the commentators on fox, it was because Docherty threw the ball back high in the air, so the ball took too long to get back to the Weagle, biggest load of bull manure I've seen this season, the Simpson 50 was a joke as was the free against plowman for a spoil, Weagles got a fair run today, two of those incidents cost goals, there's your margin

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:05 pm 
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blues8182 wrote:
Blues21 wrote:
Question - what was the 50 paid to WCE in the 3rd quarter for? I was at the game and the ball was returned to the player. Did someone say something?


According to the commentators on fox, it was because Docherty threw the ball back high in the air, so the ball took too long to get back to the Weagle, biggest load of bull manure I've seen this season, the Simpson 50 was a joke as was the free against plowman for a spoil, Weagles got a fair run today, two of those incidents cost goals, there's your margin


Thanks. I suspected that was the reason. Absolute bullshit. Agree with the spoil also.

The club needs to address these with the umpires. It happens to us too often. Like we don't matter.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:15 pm 
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Blueboy74 wrote:
Stefchook wrote:
Michael Jezz wrote:
White kills us with skill errors. Is there a replacement?


One really horrible turnover. But was one of our better players. Had a good month.


Was going to post similar. Went at 92% d/e with just that one disposal clanger. Got caught one other time taking to long to dispose of the ball, but thought he was solid today. Always better down back.


Bolton even mentioned the 3rd qtr fumbles in the middle of the ground killed us. You can produce what stats you want but white is one of those players who kills us at key moments. Yes he is borderline best 22 but we can not rise with him playing each week


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:55 pm 
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Spare a thought for us WA supporters. They'll think they can still win the flag.

Yeah, poor backyards, we've known we can't win the flag for more than a decade

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Sydney Blue wrote:
KJ wasn't good
But Lamb and Sumner had dirtier days if you ask me.
Sumner like Buckley shows a lot but neither seems to be able to find the ball.
Lamb just had a shocker he has been ok recently
Also KJ gave us the option of moving JW forward and him back. If Levi was there we couldn't have done this

See I think Buckley has no problem getting it, but butchers it by foot

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:45 am 
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Graham deserves a game next week
He is an excellent decision maker and has good vision.
The pass to Wright which resulted in a goal was brilliant.

Phillips has gone passed Kreuzer as number one ruckman


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:25 am 
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Jaksch has played 14 games. Some take longer.

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