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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

JUST GIVE US THE ...spoon

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Where there is life there is hope. No start stop football please Madhouse. No bombing haphazardly. Use the centre corridor.

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

It's a bit hard to judge for me because I've gone beyond disillusionment and find myself just not giving a shit.

I am a Maclure fan but he is running with foxes and chasing with the hounds on this one. Go back to the blue print episodes and he was pro malthouse. His headline that Malthouse has dismantled our forward line is a Robbo like truism. He dismantled a forwardline that was weak.
Waite - 27 goal sook - spare me. Sorry, I would prefer Liam Jones
Garlett - A talented Pea heart who pulls out of contests and lacks discipline in his personal life
Walker - played his best season 2 years ago and was played at Half back because we have no outside run. MM has said he will play him forward
Betts - Was a mistake. Yes 1 player but we needed a player in the Thomas Mould. Someone who can run both ways. It is a shoulder injury FFS. He played 20 games last year.
Does Maclure give Malthouse any credit for recruiting Everitt, turning Gibbs, Rowe into footballers? Where would we be without Wood?
If you think our biggest problem is Coaching and not recrutiing and player development, you are agenda driven by personality biases.

Maclure wasn't criticising Malthouse.

This goes to the "coaching myopia" comment I made in an earlier post.

Its not about Malthouse, its not about Ratten, its not even about Pagan.

It's about what is wrong with this club, the malaise about this club, the philosophy about this club.

It's about ALL the people who are in charge of running this club, and where they believe this club is at.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

Malthouse didn't turn Sam Rowe into anything. He was always a footballer, just not a very good one.

And he is still not a very good footballer. Just because he swung him down the other end doesn't make him any good.

Cold?

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

The lack of hope and the continued poor recruiting decisions is what's killing me. Have we ever recruited a player in the draft that's gone on to become a top 5 player? I've lost faith in our ability to recruit and develop players. Our recruiting incompetence has led me to lose hope and cease being a member after 30+ years. I'm not paying $700+ to watch a club which has no stars and no youth coming through.

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Simmo - the true spirit of Carlton

Nailed it!

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NOW YOU'RE JUST SOME CLUB THAT I USED TO KNOW.

BOOM!

(shanka)

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Formerly: Ackland the Wonderkid / Army the Wonderkid / quivering mess / molsey / Tony Lynn Fan Club

Yep. Been saying it for a decade now. We need a new recruiting team (which is starting to happen), a list management philosophy of going back to the draft and not recruiting other teams rubbish plus a coach and board who support this. Everyone heading in the same direction.

Every year we wait we are years further behind.

Like Ponkstar I am also at the stage where I don't give a shit anymore. We are so far behind it's not funny and we aren't trying to change. Where is the hope?

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Ratts had his turn and it was time to move on. Unfortunately we got Malthouse so it was a step backwards as he is well past it and was when collingwood saw the writing on the wall.
Fans were screaming for us to sign him. Weirdo footy fans who thought he was the beez kneez because of his past.

I am glad Ratts has got a couple of flags with the hawks playing 2nd banana. Also glad to see some of the tactics he was trying to bring in at carlton being used by other clubs. Shame he didnt get the players that could kick that he demanded from our recruiting dept.

Anyway these now are dark days. To the point where all hope is lost and people are starting to stop going to games and even switching over. We are terrible to watch too.

We could drift off and become nothing or be smart and create a super club to rival the Hawks and the Pies. We might have to change our name a little and jumper a little but it can be done and i think now is the time to explore a m......................

Jones has half the talent of Waite. Waite has out performed Jones over several years despite playing less games ... end of story.
Betts was a disaster ... all we needed to do was match the offer (regardless of whether he wanted to go or not).
Walker is Mr Reliable on the park. I would prefer him to play forward to add some bite ... we sure do need bite in our forward line.
Garlett was a proven goal kicker before Madhouse came along ... should still be at the club if he had been managed correctly.

Maclure was spot on.

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

Certainly worth considering club.

50-80% of something great is better than 100% of something shit..

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I hope Essendon* folds.

I'm not going to knock the idea of a merge, I'd hate it to happen of course, but it's at least an option out of left field that may well get us back up & running. Whether it would turn out like another ill fated short cut I don't know. I'd be confident that like GWS & GC the AFL would back it in a big way to make it a success, especially as the media in Vic would be all over it trying to make it fail.

The problem with a merge is that unlike in the 90's we are no longer the big brother. Had we merged with the Saints or North then it would have been weighted in our favour. We may well have to give up too much to make it work & our hand is no longer a strong one.

I'd honestly hate a merge, the dark navy blue jumper is sacrosanct in my eyes despite the club itself pissing around with the colour for the last 20yrs!

Might be time for a new thread on a merger.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

I fear the controlling elite inner circle who put the club in this position and who claim exclusive ownership will never let go....

Would be interesting to hear peoples views on it.
Personally i wouldnt have a problem with it if it was with North and it was done right with the MCG home ground thrown in. Maybe some Ballarat action also. Northern Blues.

Not sure the AFL are into mergers though. Even if it was something two clubs were interested in.

Rabble rabble merger rabble