Yarran tries when he wants to.

A leader has presence. Whatever that is.

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THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

A good captain gets the best EFFORT out of his players on a consistent basis.

On top of all of this, one man doesn't make a team, as much as people might flock to an individual's 'aura'. Murphy might steer the ship in time, but plenty will be there to ensure things are followed through.

If they're all pointing fingers, then they're never going to get anything done.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Last time Walker played forward he kicked 50 goals. I'm over giving away, or letting go, our goalkickers. If another 50+ goalkicker was given away we'd be a laughing stock.

Anyway, when we talk trading we have to look at contract status and whether the player wants to leave.

..i'm a fan of simmo, but the way he is hyped up as a great leader makes me wonder what people require for a great leader.. ..for me?, I don't rate him as much of a leader at all.. ..we have had crap culture and still have crap team culture and simmo has been here through all of it.. ..judd didn't bring it, he helped shine the goody two shoes but he is an individually great player, but so much of his play revolves around him.. ....as has been said, who on our list combines the consistent team work ethic, with the hard edge to eyeball other players and give them the truth..?.. ..we don't have any that really combine these two traits (or nobody listens).. ....there's a lot of superficial leadership jargon, but on field team play shows the honest truth.. ..on field as a team we are a rabble.... ..it's been years since we've strung together any four quarter effort games..

..put some mentoring and time towards crisps and doc and get them primed to fight it out for next captain.. ..build the future leaders around these two.. ..instill some ruthlessness into them as well, for opponents and also team mates in terms towards what is required, for ever onfield act..

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..if you wanted to get savage with the list to rebuild, the trick is convincing the players to want to leave.. ....the ones worth anything love the club..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

Highly controversial opinion BKB re Simmo.

Have a look at his body and the results he brings on the field.
Have a look at what he's achieved in international rules and the opinions opposition coaches say.
Have a look at who went to Smith after he was involved in a good passage.
Have a look at what the upcoming kids say about him at training.
Have a look....

He is highly regarded for both off field and on field feats.
His efforts of courage are best of breed.
His resilience....I could go on.

You are wrong. Define leader and why Simmo lacks your respect?

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I actually think Carrazzo is our best leader and as I understand it does eyeball teammates but you need more than one - plays like it too ie will play anywhere for team and has sacrificed his game to stop others etc over his career

Sorry mate but how does that trick work and can you give us good examples of this strategy?

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..yes he does all the nice guy leadership stuff no doubt, but he doesn't kick arse and take names ya dig.. ..no one does, because on field team work and work rate has been a mirage for well over a decade now.. .....we are a rabble, we have no good leaders.. ..simmo is good out of what we have got, but not good enough to bring about any real lasting change.. ..neither has Judd, nor is Murphy or Gibbs.. .... ..how many years do these guys get as leaders before the results speak for themselves..?.. ....if the others don't listen, why..?.. ....same on field crap for years, how many coaches do you try with widely different game plans, before you realise plenty is the playing group..

..weak leadership on field, we concede 'red time' goals far too much for us to be a well organised and well run team.. ..teams get a run-on of goals against us and we can't stop it.. ..a decade of this crap.. ..coaches have come and gone, but on field there is still a lack of cohesion.. ..silly mistakes time and again..

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....no idea, hence the trick.. ....personally a new batch of kids into the same crap team culture and random development won't being about any genuine change.. ....we'd be a lot better if half the team gave some heart.. ..we'd make the finals if the entire team did..

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You want me to accept that as your response to hardworking Simmo.
Rubbish BKB...your worst post ever...fancy saying Simmo doesn't kick arse...no I don't dig.

I understand weak leadership, but your rubbishing one of if not the equal of any player in the league pound for pound in the courage stakes, in the leadership stakes...breaks lines...look tonight starts on the bench an explaining to Smith the pattern of the goal we just got.

You are making me

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Alright I get your irrational way tonight...you're frustrated like the rest of us...you are not making sense.

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..bondi, I am not knocking simmo's courage, nor on field effort.. ..as I said he is a good player and as a leader does the nice guy and onfield inspirational stuff.. ..but not good enough to have any culture changing effect.. ..none of our leaders have.. ...and this is my point, no one on our list is enough of a leader to change our crap on field culture.. ..it doesn't detract from anything you say regarding simmo, its just not enough, not by half.. ....we had to get rid of our 'larrikin' players cos our leaders couldn't bring them into line.. ..weak leaders, everywhere..

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Edit

We get these comments



Why cant we use the term rebuilding? Does Carlton think it's above rebuilding? When will the club take its medicine and stop sending mixed messages.

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So, do we trade the number one draft pick or keep it?

So in the last two years it is Betts and Garlett out and Thomas and Tutt in ... no wonder we are shithouse

..jones' three years.. ..crap list management decision like this is why we always have little wriggle room come trade week..

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Wash your mouth out..!


...keep it, of course.

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