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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:40 pm 
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Bruce Doull
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It's more filtering of the club. That's all it is...
Who's going to be on the council?
The culture is being nurtured from the middle down and then all the way up and all the way down again.
Classic immersion...

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:52 pm 
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Mike Fitzpatrick

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This club has never worried about membership and generally speaking supporters did not care who ran the joint because we were winning flags.
This is all about winning and losing in the end.
If we were winning the board would not have to bother with a Carlton Members Council.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:56 pm 
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Stephen Silvagni
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woof wrote:
This club has never worried about membership and generally speaking supporters did not care who ran the joint because we were winning flags.
This is all about winning and losing in the end.
If we were winning the board would not have to bother with a Carlton Members Council.

Poor decision making from a self appointed board has us in this position.
No accountability.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:24 pm 
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From the Club release regarding the purpose of the council...

(c) consider and propose a code of conduct for members at the Club; and

Um, what?

7. Communication / Publication
Matters discussed at Council meetings are confidential.

I thought they were there to represent us?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:54 pm 
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[quote="Franc de Borges"]From the Club release regarding the purpose of the council...


7. Communication / Publication
Matters discussed at Council meetings are confidential.


In the most inclusive way, of course!

Clinton Brown wouldn't know member engagement if we lined up one by one and blew him.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:36 pm 
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Trevor Keogh
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Synbad wrote:
They will improve us for sure and we will move forward just as if I raced an Olympic gold medalist I too would be going forward but in reality I'd be getting lapped.


An apt image. That gold medallist is wearing a baby poo jumper.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:38 pm 
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Bruce Doull
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Franc de Borges wrote:
From the Club release regarding the purpose of the council...

(c) consider and propose a code of conduct for members at the Club; and

Um, what?

7. Communication / Publication
Matters discussed at Council meetings are confidential.

I thought they were there to represent us?

cant tell us what theyre up to....

its a secret.....

these idiots know no bounds.... lol

its their way to reach to us....

Look these councils and think tanks are about grooming for the culture....theyre grooming shills... (useful idiots)

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:49 pm 
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Ken Hands

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Blues21 wrote:
Shouldn't they be focusing their attention towards the many thousands of Carlton fans who are not currently members. It seems to me therein lies the root cause of the problem.

Fine ask members for their views but converting non members is the real aim here.

I doubt our membership department would be able to produce a list for follow up.

I know many like myself who love the club, go regularly and take our kids but haven't been members for years.

That's a very naive view of things, unless they're completely dumb and inept these types of emails would be going to recent members that have an email address in the membership database.

One of the biggest issues across all clubs, and I suspect ours is one of the worst, is membership churn. Doesn't mean they still can't communicate to those who for whatever reason aren't members for a particular year.

Unlike some here, I can see a real difference in how the club are doing things. Just wish all areas were synergised at once and some sort of success was happening at the same time.


It's not naïve it's accurate. You won't make a dent om membership numbers by just getting the existing members to sign up every year. You need to aggressively pursue those who drop away for no other reason other than to understand why they have done so.

I can start you off with 2 very good reasons not to be a member; Pratt & Mathieson.

It's not a membership anyway. It's a subscription. Compare this to the way the MCC operates. They are proposing changes to entry requirements for restricted members. The changes are fully detailed and explained in clear simple language 1 year before a vote is put to members. No tricks no games just open honest communication.

Why on earth would you ever be a "member" of this club given the appalling manner in which loyal fans have been treated?


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