Dominating games , surely you jest.

I'm starting to think BKB might be Matty's mum in disguise.

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

The fact remains that Kreuzer has not dominated on a consistant basis for a long time and i just don't see him doing so again based on all the things you mentioned such as him being overloaded at too young an age which led to the injuries you detailed.

Of course he is still able to carry the ruck but he's not the only player we have who can. He is however the only ruckman we have that may tempt GWS into dealing with us with the number one pick on the table. This isn't about bagging Kreuzer, it's about effecting a trade which would benefit us long term, i believe we should trade him whilst he still has some currency, i fear that won't be the case in a coupole of years. I also don't believe that our team will suffer if he isn't there.

Trading one of the small forwards won't land us the number one pick, GWS has made it known they are after a ruckman or a key defender. If we land a key forward by trading Kreuzer i think we will be in front.

The fact remains that Kreuzer has not dominated on a consistant basis for a long time and i just don't see him doing so again based on all the things you mentioned such as him being overloaded at too young an age which led to the injuries you detailed.

Of course he is still able to carry the ruck but he's not the only player we have who can. He is however the only ruckman we have that may tempt GWS into dealing with us with the number one pick on the table. This isn't about bagging Kreuzer, it's about effecting a trade which would benefit us long term, i believe we should trade him whilst he still has some currency, i fear that won't be the case in a coupole of years. I also don't believe that our team will suffer if he isn't there.

Trading one of the small forwards won't land us the number one pick, GWS has made it known they are after a ruckman or a key defender. If we land a key forward by trading Kreuzer i think we will be in front.[/quote]
Well said.

..and yet Krooz has had 2 BoG performances.. ..how many have the others have..?.. ..you claim Krooz never has.. ..i put up examples of where he has.. ..you proceed to stick your fingers in your ears.. ..how many dominating games have the others have.. ..seriously, start listing their BoG performances.. ..now, i'm not saying they havent been good, but you're claiming they sometimes dominate but lack consistency, and that Krooz never does.. ..and its garbola.. ..i back up my claims with evidence, list yours or zip it..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

..mrs doubtfire style..!!..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

..ok, since Krooz cameback from that knee mid-2011.. ..list the players that have dominated on a consistent basis..

..as for the reasons why you think he can't get better.. ..wait and see.. ..but the injuries he's had have not been from being overworked.. ..blew out his knee pushing back hard to help out defence, landed badly.. ..ditto with the broken thumb.. ..can happen to anyone [and does].. ..last year was played thru injury cos ratts was desperate to turn the season around, and even a mastercoach like him could see that an injured Krooz was his only hope, after Hammer did his PCL for the 2nd time in a year, and Knockers got chickenwinged and put out for the season by the huge and ferocious Cyril.. ..but this off-season he was back to full fitness, and hasnt had any strapping on the knee this year at all which i think would mean he's over the knee issue..

.... ..in regards to carrying the ruck, yes he's the only one we have that can.. ..we used to have 4 rucks.. ..2 are durable, 2 can't play more than half a season.. ..we had to trade out 1 durable ruck.. ..now, you wanna trade out the other durable ruck.... ..do you realise that Knockers' avg's 8 games a season.. ..Hampson approx. 9 games a season....

..there's a reason, out of our surplus of rucks it's only Krooz that will get a good trade.. ..that means, that we dont have a surplus of Good rucks.. ..we have only 1 good ruck, and avg rucks.. ..when you have a surplus, you dont trade out your very best of the lot.. ..especially when you're trying to add much needed quality to the list.. .trading 1 good player out, and getting 1 in.. ..for our list as it is, it isn't moving ahead, it's shuffling list issues..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

Yep.

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17 4 10

..very poor tonight.. ..but not the only ones.. ..less than a handful of players could be said to have beat their opponent, or battled hard and can face themselves in the mirror..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

2 bog performances from a number 1 pick wow

Racists

..ruckmen don't often get BoG's, so for a young ruckman thats had an ACL, yes 2 BoGs is a good showing.. ..and it's still more than you claimed he's had, and more than you claim yarran and garlett have.. ..feel free to keep switching your arguement though, i can do this all day..

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Yarran and Jeff are the biggest cheats going around. Ahead of the contest before the ball has even been won on so many occasions last night

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"I had to eat"

Team trait. Including Judd.

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We are on our way back...

..a team trait yes, but not all players.. ..it's just there's too many cheats/passengers that the finals footy types are left doing too much work..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

Bump

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17 4 10

Amongst others.

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All my dangerous friends

Yarran looking far too happy post game with the 'brothers'. Shits me.

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"I had to eat"

They need to be able to play midfield roles and even in defence
These 3 put to much pressure on our other mids and it wears them down

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If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

I'm fed up with Yarran (again)