Thank you for your prompt reply.

I have not mentioned Ratts so I am not sure why you are bringing him up. For the record I have not been happy with the list and the people who put it together to me have got it wrong and it was their undoing. I have said that a million times to you. I am not sure why you asked that.

Bryce played a very good game in our midfield on the weekend. He proved he can do things I doubted he could. He has a few more things to do to convince me. Consistency, adapting to a tag and playing in a more congested situation because lets face it the hawks game was quite open around the packs. My other opinion re Bryce was we are better team with him defense. I am not sure my opinion there has been disproven. The move of Simpson to defense has softened the blow of losing Bryces smarts and sure hands from behind the ball but still has not netted us wins. Just the one with Bryce in the midfield this season against GWS. I am close to being proven wrong and will own up when it is conclusive not run and hide like you have done countless times over the years and even do in your first reply here.

I still feel Malthouse not making changes to the list ( the list you don't like ) at the end of last year was a mistake and a waste of a year. Carrying the extra ruck contract, the HBFers and those soft of mind and body another year is a waste. So I stand by describing this year as a waste.

Now that I have addressed your questions I think it would be only fair if you actually addressed questions fired at you instead of deflecting with more questions or going into your Ratts twitch that has no relevance.

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He couldn't make changes as our moronic list management team headed by ratten signed up a heap of average players to contracts they never should of got

big win v sydney on the scg in an arm wrestle would help the trust

Do you believe all this crap Sugarcane?
This is same bloke who hasnt openly said all players are not equal. Lesser lights are treated differently to star players.
And spare me the "pure honestly" crap.
This is the same bloke who blatantly lied about the Stephen Milne incident and was forced to apologise for trying to worm his way out of an incident instead of taking responsibility for his actions.

Yes Mick is doing a good job, yes Mick deserves some patience and support but spare me the Mother Teresa sermon.
Some of you people need to get a grasp of reality. Malthouse is a successful coach of years gone by and hopefully he can bring some success to Carlton but he has plenty of frailties as well.

If you're expecting something other than a footy football coach in his latter years of career you're going to be very disappointed because thats the reality.
He isnt the panacea sent to save our club. He is a small part of the puzzle.

You can trade contracted players. I am not talking about delisting Joseph and Davies. They were wrongly signed up but have no relevance to this discussion.

You can trade contracted players. I am not talking about delisting Joseph and Davies. They were wrongly signed up but have no relevance to this discussion.

And don't anyone tear down this post or merge it with another thread

Time will show Malthouse is worth every cent we pay him

This group of players are not by any means perfect but after just 12 games he has them busting their gut week in week out, he has instilled a dedication to give maximum effort ... and as a result we know with surety we are just 2-3 goals off the pace

And those who don't comform to the benchmark efforts and rules and expectations, regardless of your reputation you will be sidelined - make no mistake because this is about discipline and dedication and 'bare minimum standards'

First Laidler and Duigan then Waite and now Yarran and White and I don't care how good your first ten games were Jeff if you continue to let fear dominate your game you'll no doubt be next

Malthouse is sorting out the boys from the men and the girls from the boys

He is setting ground rules and in effect establishing the culture needed to one day be as clinical and professional as Sydney and Hawthorn etc

He speaks in clear, direct terms. He doesn't mince words. He speaks of a man whose been at the coal face for 30+ years as coach and has not just seen it all but has also proven he is an old dog who can learn new tricks

He understands too well it is a process because the process and time is needed to make this team Great again

He knows the ladder is at once misleading and a true reflection. Misleading because we are better than our ladder position says we are but true because at the end of the day, in practical terms we haven't won enough games...thus far ... He sees both the abstract and the reality

He knows the umpires killed us last night and he is prepared to use his high standing in the game to make a stern statement about this. He's standing up for our club!

The man, in my view hasn't said a wrong word in a presses or post match all year. He's been on the money the entire way.

He has improved individuals and the team in just 12 real games.

And the great thing is, he looks like he's just starting to get warmed up. It's time to knuckle down, pull the sleeves up, elbow to the grindstone or whatever the !@#$%& it is.

He knows what needs to be done.

Watch carefully. Just like at Collingwood he will simultaneously turn the list into a well drilled, hard nosed, dedicated unit, all the while bringing young men into the team. Before you know it he will bring in the new wave (Bootsma, Cachia and Levi now, soon Menzel, and my guess is Graham and Bucks Jnr shorlty, plus McCinnes).

He's a genius.

He has a challenge on his plate no doubt, but he wouldnt have it any other way now doubt. Something about climbing the mountain, the process.

He will be buoyed by Gibbs' great effort last night.

He will be driven by the need to turn Jeff and Yazz into men.

He knows Lucas has improved and is giving us great run but also needs to toughen up, but he knows now is not the time to bust the lads chops!

He is putting it together, assembling it. Bit by bit. Game by game.

When he said last week "we'll get THERE", strike me if he didnt say this with pure honesty. He knows where we are at. He knows it's within striking distance but some changes are needed to the list and to the culture, and he is making those changes in front of our very eyes.

Anyone who can't see this is !@#$%& blind.

Do you believe all this crap Sugarcane?
This is same bloke who hasnt openly said all players are not equal. Lesser lights are treated differently to star players.
And spare me the "pure honestly" crap.
This is the same bloke who blatantly lied about the Stephen Milne incident and was forced to apologise for trying to worm his way out of an incident instead of taking responsibility for his actions.

Yes Mick is doing a good job, yes Mick deserves some patience and support but spare me the Mother Teresa sermon.
Some of you people need to get a grasp of reality. Malthouse is a successful coach of years gone by and hopefully he can bring some success to Carlton but he has plenty of frailties as well.

If you're expecting something other than a footy football coach in his latter years of career you're going to be very disappointed because thats the reality.
He isnt the panacea sent to save our club. He is a small part of the puzzle.

What was with complaining about the umps in the media?? Is this what we have become??? He came across as a flower in those pressers. Not sure why seeing our club represented that way made some feel good.

More victim .

There's some contrasting things that happen in press conferences that have me wondering which is better.

Hird talks about the merit of a young 2nd gamer kicking 3 goals (2 of which were gifts and 1 which was a beautiful sailing shot from 50 on the run). He talks about him as the future of the club.

Malthouse doesn't commend any single player for their efforts. Robinson plays with a possible cracked shoulder. Simpson courageous. But to Malthouse there's no time for heroes. It's bamboozled me. My thoughts would be to at least acknowledge the courage of some outstanding individual contributions that set an example.

But then, one team won by 40 points, the other lost another winnable game where the umpiring infuriated quite a few on here (and Mick himself).

An interesting comparison nontheless.