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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:58 pm 
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no chance

the AA selectors are morons

they would probably have enright ahead of walker and milne ahead of garlett

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:26 pm 
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It's always hard to judge a contest like this -- were we that good, or were they that bad?
I think my opinion overall though is more that GWS have got a lonnnnnnng way to go.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:30 pm 
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Did Setanta get a touch?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:15 pm 
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Stefchook wrote:
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Probably the most dangerous Carlton forward line I've seen since Sticks retired (even with Betts missing).


Had a tear in my eye watching 3 forwards; Waite, Henderson & Casboult/Krooz giving us a target. :grin:
If only. :wink:


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:45 pm 
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THIS ^^^^^^

Henderson would be a 60+ goal a year forward if played their permanently...

If only Watson had come on....sigh

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:50 pm 
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Wojee wrote:
Did Setanta get a touch?


but we should have kept him... :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:14 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
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Did Setanta get a touch?


but we should have kept him... :lol:


Regardless, he was working better for us when we had him than Hampson/Casboult/Rowe, etc, is now. You blokes grasp of irony needs a bit of a shake up, too many American sitcoms? :confused:

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:57 am 
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Mine was a genuine question, only time I saw him was sitting on the bench in the red vest.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:44 am 
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mjs wrote:
A few comments either way ...
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Overall, no real complaints, bit of pi$$ farting around at times early, got sucked into their dinky close in game too much and should have tried to spread it a bit more imo. Bit of a lapse at the start of the last.
Nothing I would like to see next week more than a win over the Scum. GO BLUES!!


Good summary msj.

+1 re a win over the Scum :clap:

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:56 am 
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Pafloyul wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
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Did Setanta get a touch?


but we should have kept him... :lol:


Regardless, he was working better for us when we had him than Hampson/Casboult/Rowe, etc, is now. You blokes grasp of irony needs a bit of a shake up, too many American sitcoms? :confused:


Whatchoo talking about Willis?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:35 am 
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BV, interested in your thoughts in Malthouse's press conference, particularly his comments on the game plan changing.

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2013- ... -match-r10

From about 5:30-6:30 here if you haven't heard them

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:34 am 
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Wojee wrote:
Mine was a genuine question, only time I saw him was sitting on the bench in the red vest.


One touch I believe. Possibly the same as the week before. Should not of played either game in hindsight.

Thornton was on the ABC as a special comments man during the Sydney v Essendon* match. At one stage he was referred to as the former GWS/Carlton player. Not sure why they're not playing him. Would be well suited to full forward and Cameron centre half forward.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:33 am 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
BV, interested in your thoughts in Malthouse's press conference, particularly his comments on the game plan changing.

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2013- ... -match-r10

From about 5:30-6:30 here if you haven't heard them



I think its spot on.
As much as others fantasise about us playing 'Malthouse style, kick around the boundary" footy, its obvious we're now playing to our strengths. As we have in previous seasons.
Yet even last week someone was saying its obvious we go around the boundary now. :lol:
We look to hit the corridor off half back as much as possible instead of the boundary style game Mick tried to implement during the NAB cup and first couple of games. Its common sense. we dont have the tall marking targets so its smart to move the ball around the masses instead of through it.
The AFL stats indicate plenty of scores are coming off turnovers so its stupidity to kick the ball to contests when you have the option of retaining possession. The fast, play on style also assists our small forward line by not allowing opposition clubs to get numbers back.
Full credit to Malthouse. He admits he tried to retrofit a game plan and it didnt work. I admire the fact he hasnt been bloody minded and has been adaptable.
And that was my concern. I said from day 1 we couldnt sustain a boundary based game style and its been obvious since the second half against Richmond that we've realigned our game style to something more relevant to our personnel.

It makes a farce of the predictions of some here though. 'MM only plays one ruckman", "MM will play a defensive, round the boundary game", no shootouts etc. The reality is, MM has proved he can be adaptable and flexible and Collingwoods gamestyle wasnt necessarily his "brand" but more the style that suited the personnel.
It also demonstrates the fact Ratten wasnt off the mark with our game style. Yes, he had plenty of areas to improve but how we played the game gave us the best chance of success.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:42 am 
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Looks more like Ratten's game plan to me.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:46 am 
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It's pretty obvious that we have a long way to go, I don't think Mick has any delusions of us being top 4 or going deep into the finals this year, yesterday's win wasn't really any different to the last 2, we weren't super impressive at any stage and GWS were always going to fall away in the second half.

We seem to lack the ability to be mentally switched on for four quarters and that will bite us on the ass big time over the next 5 weeks, if we win one of those games I think I will be happy.

Can someone, anyone please show Casboult how to hold the footy and how to drop it onto his boot properly, it's a skill we learn when we are 7 years old.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:47 am 
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harker wrote:
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Hammer is better than Casboult
He works harder takes more marks is better in the ruck and chasers better



Give me a break.

I wish it was true but it's just not. Have another go.


Hammer would have kicked 5 or 6 against that opposition we had yesterday
Weakest team in the comp and Casboult returns 1.3
Hammer is the better player

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:52 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
TruBlueBrad wrote:
BV, interested in your thoughts in Malthouse's press conference, particularly his comments on the game plan changing.

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2013- ... -match-r10

From about 5:30-6:30 here if you haven't heard them



I think its spot on.
As much as others fantasise about us playing 'Malthouse style, kick around the boundary" footy, its obvious we're now playing to our strengths. As we have in previous seasons.
Yet even last week someone was saying its obvious we go around the boundary now. :lol:
We look to hit the corridor off half back as much as possible instead of the boundary style game Mick tried to implement during the NAB cup and first couple of games. Its common sense. we dont have the tall marking targets so its smart to move the ball around the masses instead of through it.
The AFL stats indicate plenty of scores are coming off turnovers so its stupidity to kick the ball to contests when you have the option of retaining possession. The fast, play on style also assists our small forward line by not allowing opposition clubs to get numbers back.
Full credit to Malthouse. He admits he tried to retrofit a game plan and it didnt work. I admire the fact he hasnt been bloody minded and has been adaptable.
And that was my concern. I said from day 1 we couldnt sustain a boundary based game style and its been obvious since the second half against Richmond that we've realigned our game style to something more relevant to our personnel.

It makes a farce of the predictions of some here though. 'MM only plays one ruckman", "MM will play a defensive, round the boundary game", no shootouts etc. The reality is, MM has proved he can be adaptable and flexible and Collingwoods gamestyle wasnt necessarily his "brand" but more the style that suited the personnel.
It also demonstrates the fact Ratten wasnt off the mark with our game style. Yes, he had plenty of areas to improve but how we played the game gave us the best chance of success.


Thanks BV. I knew you had your concerns about him being pig headed, and I shared them, so I'm pleased he's been prepared to change things up a bit. He's still tinkering and that's had more to do with our form being up and down than us being 'average'.

I'm loving his honesty in the press conference's and the fact the journo's aren't getting their way with him. He's also made a point of acknowledging the player with him a couple of times now.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:55 am 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
harker wrote:
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Hammer is better than Casboult
He works harder takes more marks is better in the ruck and chasers better



Give me a break.

I wish it was true but it's just not. Have another go.


Hammer would have kicked 5 or 6 against that opposition we had yesterday
Weakest team in the comp and Casboult returns 1.3
Hammer is the better player


I disagree about Hampson, Casboult competed hard in the air and took a couple of good grabs, he also did some good work around the ground, the biggest problem with Levi is that he doesn't hold the ball the right way and his drop to his foot is pretty ordinary when shooting for goal, that can be corrected by adjusting where his hands are placed on the ball so that it drops straight and then it is just a case of practice, practice and more practice and the confidence and accuracy will come.

Hampson forgets that his job is to contest in the air and would not have created half the contests that Levi did.

Would you want to rely on Hampson taking a mark on the defensive goal line? Levi took a couple there yesterday.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:58 am 
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blues8182 wrote:
Can someone, anyone please show Casboult how to hold the footy and how to drop it onto his boot properly, it's a skill we learn when we are 7 years old.



And when we're not shown properly at 7 years of age, it has long term effects.
Casboult has obviously had a poor ball drop from when he was a kid and it is extremely hard to rectify it.
Look at the irish recruits, Zac Tuohey, Pierce Hanley, Tadhg Kennealy, all good users of the footy. Why? because they have been taught the correct method of kicking the football when their motor skills are developed, when their hands are big enough to handle the footy and most importantly, when they have no bad habits ingrained.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:00 am 
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Simply cant have forwards who cant kick. Too deflating for the rest of the team.

Warnock and Kreuzer our ruck/tall forward combo with Waite.


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