This is the main reason we hired Malthouse.
If he can't coach these types of players then he shouldn't coach at all.
Anybody can coach a complete team.

The game not game plan
Sheesh

It is threads such as this which makes this forum about the only place I go to read about Carlton.

Doc is right in that this is a club that lacks leadership and a coherent vision that everyone at the club can buy into.

I keep coming back to Kernahan's ''We're Carlton, and f--- the rest'' as a perfect example of the hollow bravado that has seen this club stagnate for too long.

The 16 Premierships used to be a marker of our culture, no it's a crutch we lean on to kid ourselves we are still a great club.

Slingshot footy these days.

Geez I don't know if it is fair to expect Mick to be able to turn most of the soft tops into hard hats. He did had success with Thomas but by and large I think some players will forever be soft tops.

He can coach them on how to play the game however.

The game changes quite frequently.

I don't usually back old coaches in AFL, but Mick showed at Coll he was an old dog who could learn new tricks. As a result I back him in 100%.

I am not an expert and I don't watch 9 games each weekend, but looking at our mob it does look they're using the boundary more, and judging by things Mick has said he doesn't want the team to be totally defensively minded at the expense of ignoring our strength - speed.

He's probably having a good look at each player, and thinking and learnin each week what is the best game plan style for this team. It's a learning year and so I wouldn't be surprised if he tweaks things along the way, in terms of game plan.

I do notice though we seem content to let teams run the ball out of defense. Either that's the plan or things aren't working defensively with our set ups after points are conceded. My guess is Mick is agreeable to the latest fad of getting the ball at HB/centre and rebounding (slingshot). If pace is our main strength then this approach would seem to make sense.

Sugar teaching them how to play the game comes in more facets than just education of the game.
A coach should educate, but also and instil discipline, perseverance, courage, pride, self awareness and belief just to name a few characteristics that they need to be successful, especially at the highest grade.
The mentality of the game is just as important as the physicality and knowledge of it which are entwined at the most part of each player’s ability and strength. The more pride they have and the more they hate losing the more competitive and physical they become.
You need every type of player in any given team, the challenge is to mould and sculpt those players into a balanced, hungry, secure and successful team.
That’s a good coach.

I consider our recriuting dept as a big responsabilty y we are average.Players that i can see are not good enough yet we sign them up. I would love to know what they are looking at when they go to all these games camps. Deficencies i have noticed wit h recruits , injured (5 wks out), light weights, big blokes all slow. So for example if a person is slow in tac cup and is young how the flower is going to improve with the big boys. WHAT i want to see this year recruits strong bodies,must kick 50m, please injury free ready to go.Middys 185 to190 cm and talls 195 cm plus that have got some break away speed. Luckily that cats recruiting person switched over hope he can do a better job than hughes. Lucky our rookie recruits have been good.

But how do we replace the army of half bank flankers we will delist?

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It's never as good as it looks and it's never as bad as it seems.

Good coaches also make hard decisions on players

Look you make some good points, but my argument is not all players will come to the party especially those with many years bad habits

I suppose one good thIng is we haven't been belted by anyone, our avg losing margin a very low 11 points. That's a sign of a side that doesn't give up and keeps working hard

Now that's funny.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Yes but we can't rely on stabs in the dark recruiting to be better than average...


Rookies are a stab in the dark..... If you fail with early picks and think your a genius with rookie picks you're crazy.....

Cos why choose your so so reasonable players with pick after one hundred....?

There is no logic to that event what we used to say around a pool table. "Plucked that out of your arse" when its bounced off four cushions and gone in off.

Noone can be serious saying early and mid drafting is crap but we were just warming up for the rookie draft.........


Recruiting has been disappointing there is no getting away from that I'm afraid.


And there is nothing funny about getting not much in with early and mid tier draft picks. I certainly an not laughing you shouldn't be either.

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If you don't laugh when visiting TC you just might turn into a sad, grumpy, individual, full of bile and mindless rantings, with not much else going on in life .........................................................................................................................................Oh wait!!!!!

Now I get it.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

No we will build a bonfire burn Carlton football club drafts and laugh so we can be happy... don't worry about the club and its future..... let's laugh about that....

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No we will build a bonfire burn Carlton football club drafts and laugh so we can be happy... don't worry about the club and its future..... let's laugh about that....


And remember the mantra of the mediocre......" Do not question anything is all going great... Just needs time.. Stop your vile rants.".... "Or stop bringing up ancient history.... Can't you ever let it go? "

Yes I'm grumpy cazzesman.... One guess why .....


..... if it's all the same by you my spirits are fine.... You and your mates may have turned me into an alcoholic with your craftmanlike running of the club..... But still I haven't resorted to chasing the dragon just yet.......... you won't finish me off

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..i actually don't think we're too far away from 'it clicking'.. ..new coach, and the unsettled line-up [various reasons] is just meaning it will take a bit of time, but we're not even midway thru the season yet, and i don't think we expected it to just work right away.. ..i'll take finals footy [which we ought to play] with a new coach and a rejig of playing structures, personal and attitude.. .... ..i don't think it was too much of a stretch to think we'd be average as we adjusted to the new coaching regime..

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Correct but not only in their future at the club but while they are at the club and role they play in taking us forward.
An aspect that needed to be addressed early into his appointment I think that might not have been, but hopefully is being addressed after the Waite incident.

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From afar it appears that there are elements that have not been a successful as was hoped. The recruitment of KP players has not gone that well as the player recruited for those roles, have not taken the next step. I get the fact that big guys can take time but so far they have struggled, even at VFL level - McCarthy, Watson, Mitchell case in point. Levi has had his moments but his kicking skills remain a concern along with Hammer and Warnock cannot take an over head mark so has minimal impact around the ground and when up forward. I am aware that recruitment is not an exact science but we have struggled to choose KP players that can come in and add value in the short term i.e ready made players. There ought to be a balance between long and short term impact. Not sure if we have that balance right.
Leadership is still a concern and we are a side of introverts (other than one wild Tasmanian!). Not sure what Leading Teams achieved as the evidence on field is not strong.
Happy to be put right by those in the know
Go Blues.

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