This is the lesson


@AFL: Mitch Morton's Swans' career was ebbing away before his teammates pulled him aside and told him they didn't trust him http://afl.to/QChzSZ

Only one man has questioned Chris Judd.. that was Diesel....

The club never did....

No untouchables...!!!,,, that will flow down to everybody else....

Thats leadership.. the idiots we pay for leadership qualities are a waste of time.

Look at what Diesel did for Jobe watson.. and watson called in diesel not the club...

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Compare this to what we allowed Fevola to get away with starting from "the coach loves me" Pagan years.

and WB wanted to get rid of Fev... we showed him

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I was going to add the fact that most of our older players that we have aren't leaders, regardless. However, the Swans made a concerted effort to change the way they went about things, instead of simply trading for the best players on the market year after year. Even if they didn't bottom out they had a change of mindset. I doubt they'd win many premierships if they didn't.

If anything, it is all linked. Carlton's culture is just as much a culture of desperation as a culture of mediocrity. After all, no one deliberately chooses to be mediocre but some can and do choose to be desperate.

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

We are never ever ever getting another flag.

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We are on our way back...

I have always been a HUGE fan of the Sydney system. Geelong are similar. Mediocrity is not tolerated, Great Leadership, Quality people, a finals game plan, never bottoming out, never over pay, look at all options, development, role players, competition for spots, TEAM.

We not only have to learn from this we need to be better. MM will help but there is more required. We need to be aggressive in the trade period. The Swans have turned over 33 players in three years yet have improved, not rebuilt!

There are a lot of very talented "fringe" players who arent getting regular games for many reasons.

If we can get Caddy with a player trade plus 3-4 others and still have picks in round 1-3 we will be in a very good position.

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I would have thought a trade for a player like Caddy would be un-Sydney like though? We wont get him for one of our discards, it will be a high pick

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What is needed is an evenly spread team all hard, committed and playing for each other with no individual departing from that.

Swans trading in other clubs rejects looks a lot like moneyball.

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So hard to earn, so easily burned
In the fullness of time
A garden to nurture and protect

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They aren't 'rejects'...just surplus I suppose.

Kennedy had Lewis/Sewell/Mitchell as inside mids ahead of him.

Mumford had Blake/Ottens.

Use their second round picks (Hannebery, Parker, Reid).

No fighting at board level...when do you hear anything from the Sydney board?

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"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

Swans have what Ratts could never really instill in our game plan. Structure.

But no one has really looked at the Hawks. They had the better of the play for the majority of the day except for where it counted - in front of goal. Apart from more scoring shots several out of bounds. If they had kicked straight in front of goal game over, but bad kicking = bad footy.

What are we doing doing about our forward set up and shot taking, something I hope.

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"Get ready, Teddy - you're on": Ron Barassi half time 1970 Grand Final

Goodes, O'Keefe, Bolton and LRT are the only Sydney players who played in both Premiership teams.

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Mens sana in corpore sano.

Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!

All you need to do is to look at the modern Premiership teams to know what it takes to win a Flag.

Sydney - enough said
Geelong - sorted out their off-field with Costa and Cook. Sorted out their on-field through exceptional drafting and strong leadership. Johnson stuffs up, gets banished to the twos for 6 weeks. No players on more than $600k apparently - suggests team comes first mentality.
Collingwood - McGuire and Malthouse turned that club into a debt-ridden, wooden spoon basket case to the most powerful club in the country. Brilliantly run from top to bottom.
Hawthorn - Dicker was the one who began the transformation, Kennett continued it. Powerful off field, strong on. Great culture, every players seems to want to go to Hawthorn these days. Fantastic leadership from Hodge, Mitchell, Sewell etc.

You can go back through Sydney again, WC (whose leadership was strong enough to actually get through a very difficult phase with Cousins and co) and Brisbane. Port is an interesting one, can't remember what they were like off field back then.

With every year that goes past, it gets harder to win a flag. You have to be exceptional in all areas. We haven't been exceptional at any area in over a decade. That must now change. Malthouse is a step in the right direction. A change in president and board hopefully will be too. Recruitment still concerns me, especially with the 'speed is king' declaration. The last team to win a flag through speed (will avoid the WC joke) was the Carlton mosquito fleet in 79-82.

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Mens sana in corpore sano.

Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!

hawthorn had more?
whats the point of that???

4 players .. but the guts of that team has been reconditioned....meanwhile where have we been??

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I'm agreeing with you Synbad.

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Mens sana in corpore sano.

Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!

Embrace the draft, embrace the draft, embrace the draft; develop leadership, strength of mind, strength of character.

We are so far from what Sydney represent. We have to recognise that.

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1945 - End of round 3 Carlton was last.

Last round Carlton made the final four for the first time.

Eventual premiers.

That's what I'm talking about!

i know im just adding to it... cos Syd is pretending.. its the same side...... as Roos flag from 7 years ago....
Or Colllingwood had the same sides as 2002/3 ... or hawthorns same as 1990......people have to wake up... while we sleep others are working towards premierships....
'its just we like to make excuses and rationalise cos we have been poor.

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Make sure you have a footy style will hold up in finals.

Make sure you are playing it well in Sept.

Swans played the best footy of all the sides in the finals and I actually think that the next best was the Dockers.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Hawthorn need to get past that kicking the ball through the eye of a needle in high pressure finals...
And they tried to control the game.. Swans tried to win it by being bold.

Morton and Pike average players were very good.... cos they did what they had to do... simple...

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Lets remember something. We have 16 flags, 8 in the last 45 years. The Swans have 5 flags, 2 in the last 79 years.

They won because they play as a team football and no one is carried. Problem with 2012 was that Mr. Ratten decided to select teams on reputation not fitness or form. Garlett, Gibbs, Yarran are in for rude shocks in 2013.

In 2013 Mr. Malthouse will have higher team orientated standards. If you don't do what is asked of you, you will not play.

Reputations mean nothing to Malthouse, He already has his. That is why he played kids at Collingwood ahead of older players.

Our club has more talent than the Swans what we lack is attitude.

Also a quick review of the Swans list shows that 9 players will be over 29 yo next year.

So this was something coming. The AFL should be questioned as to why the Swans receive extra money in their salary cap that allows for money ball.

Bring on 2013.