There is not a player currently in the team from the 04 draft

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10 years of Scarponi type blind optimists telling me its a "blip", its "injuries", "improving". However, whenever the fundamental reasons for poor performance are presented: "coaching", "gameplan" & "player development" they are seemingly dismissed. Personally, Scarponi's "she will be right mate" attitude being applauded for loyalty does nothing for me

Ignoring the fact we haven't had many great wins this year... when was the last time you can remember the group singing the song with any meaning or passion.

They just seem like a bunch who think they're a good team and are happy to be known as AFL footballers.

If you don't want to be loyal and act like corporate hot shots as if CFC is something you invest in then go ahead.. for me CFC is part of a family and at the moment its a very hard time and looking for positives does more good than harm because there are plenty of positives. If you can't see it perhaps you hate something, perhaps you have personality diffrerences perhaps , I don't really know. Looking for positives and supporting those in charge and trusting them to come out out of this is what every supporter should do. Too easy to look for negatives in times like these... any pea brain can look for negatives this week

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx

Exactly what Nick Stevens said in this article.

Shouldnt be any suprise because his concentration and discipline taking out the opposositions best ball player and getting plenty of it himself, he's one of the best.

I hesitate to say this, but did we do the right thing in recruiting Juddy? Has having a superstar in the side stunted some players development? We gave up a player who is now arguably one of the best CHF's in the game too. Did all get a little too complacent ? "We've got Juddy now, flags will follow". Could the money required to secure Juddy have been better used? Could we have obtained some young, promising players instead?

Our recruiting has been shown to be poor, all those years of high picks and where are we? With a side which goes from flag favourites to also-rans when we have a bad run of injuries, something which every club has to suffer through. Our bottom six are not up to it, this to me is an indictment of our recruiting and don't get me started on the amount of players we have who are poor kicks. Turn overs kill you in the modern game and we do it again and again. Hawthorn made a point of recruiting players who had good disposal, hence the '08 flag.

Ratts should see out the season, I can't see much point in shafting him now. Let's see what he, his support staff and the players are made of, if the season ends as I suspect it will (12-13 wins, missing the finals) then let the blood flow. I don't buy into this "they've worked out how we play" stuff. Every club knows how every other club plays, the game has never been scrutinised as now. It's how you respond to opposition tactics, it's about adapting to issues as they arise. Are the players unable or unwilling? Are there no options to adapt to? Does anyone else think we are a little like Adelaide during Craig's last year?

As has been posted before, Carlton resemble an old time VFA club run by the good old boys, appointing a bloke as coach with as little experience as Ratts was a massive gamble. Would he have got the job without his mate being president? What chance of the job at any other club?

Please don't treat this poll as trolling, I'm hurting, hurting big time. I let a few days go before posting to try to put things in perspective; I might add I thought we'd get beaten by Port, so listless have we been in recent weeks. My family has followed Carlton for generations, new borns immediately receive Carlton jumpers, scarves etc. I've still got my first Carlton jumper with Ken Hands number on the back (yes, I'm old).

Christ, all the years we suffered with the promise of good times to come. The despair I could handle, but the dashed hopes are killing me.

I feel better now (slightly). Seriously, I wonder if I'll live long enough to see another flag. Jeeze, I wish this stupid bloody game and CFC didn't mean so much to me.

Yeah good points but I might just blame him anyway . I reckon we deviated from 'best available' in that draft.

Yes but what do you think is Gibbs' best position? Do you reckon he goes ok on the HBF?

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I don't know. I would like to not waste the year. It is a good spread at the top right now with all beatable with a good game plan. I would say screw it, sack Ratts and bring in either Roos, Bomber, or Malthouse and see if we can make something of the second half.

Make a statement that we are here to win and not take this limp dick football we dish up

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As if roos or thompson would come to coach carlton. Malthouse maybe but not the other two.

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In fairness Snickers if our guys jumped about like a bunch of lunatics after beating a middle of the road team they'd be accused of "getting ahead of themselves" "or going over the top, when in reality they've achieved nothing", so I have no problem with that.

Haven't seen Geelong or Collingwood do much different over the years. James Kelly even got a ripping for acting like he'd fallen asleep after one game.

Richmond's moshpits are all well and good, but reality is they are still only 5-5.

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