The whole problem is the coaching staff have brained was the supporters into thinking win the clearances and you win the match. Well guess what sometimes you wont win them and you need a plan b) that revolves around rebound footy, kicking efficiency and a forward line that can take a contested mark. That might sound old fashioned but the only thing old fashioned about it is that it used to be plan (a.

but didn,t get fyfe

Spot on hornet

Oh well, no footy media for me = productive work week.

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"In better news for Blues fans, Jarrad Waite was not named on the club's injury list."

He has beaten taggers before just tonight he got done. Back to the drawing board with his work with taggers.

We need to find form fast. We have a big month ahead. We need to be solution focused and not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

We know we can play better so we have to work hard to get back to an exceptable level. Get the mix right. Get our touch back and get some energy back into the lineup.

Not sure why Army is getting ridiculed here, did a great job on Dal Santo. So good the box were shit scared to move him to the backline and get Joseph the @#$%&! out of there.

Joseph was absolute tripe, he's got good fitness though and well worth a run with role in the guts.

Really disappointed with the coaching setup, don't think they did anywhere near enough. Ratts dribbles on about being a flexible team yet there were so many moves that could be made that weren't.

We'll win next week

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Fixed

Huh? Saints were running on empty in last quarter, our emptiness is in the head and heart nothing to do with with fitness

Its all them !@#$%& Collingwood assistants they have in there

Piss them off and do it now

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Anybody for a heavy training load?

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I hope Essendon* folds.

You're only as good as your supporter base.

In which case, we're incredibly soft, fickle, only go when it suits us, take the soft, cheap option without fail, turn on our own at the drop of a hat, snipers left right and centre, and more concerned about our own individual performance in looking good, rather than how the team went.

Pissweak.

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BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

Can we change the name of this place from Talking Carlton to something else?

There is absolutely NOTHING to talk about.

Insipid, uninspired, unmotivated.

I'd say let's forget it and move onto next week but if we dish up the same garbage we have the last month next week, we'll be here again and worse. Questions need to be asked of all our players as to their desire for anything resembling success on the field. Most not only do better, must have a complete attitude adjustment.

Combating us in stoppages is easy.

We dont have enough front line midfielders.
Crowd and tag a couple and the others dont find the ball.

So we are suffocated of any oxygen and then die.

Simple.

BUT.. "our army of 190 cm athletic super freaks who can run and jump " according to Kouta on here... will give the opposition PAIN!

Before you do anythng in footy.. you have to get your hands on the ball.... after that you must execute the plays.

What were doing is trying to take the game outside and beat teams in a foot race.

What we need is more front line midfielders.

Anyway.. seeing the cupboard is bare for those types.. cos we used our picks in a zillion talls and hbfer types who dont change the dynamics of the game style for us... we just have to make do the best we can and bring what we NEED in... (preferrably without Ratts as coach)

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the general capitulation when plan A is being thwarted is the most disappointing thing I think

What a frustrating match. Joseph, Zac, Duigan all struggled down back.

Rather than be seated on the pine next to laptop wielding sports scientists, I would much rather see Ratten in the box surrounded by coaches.

Best not to flirt with form.Waite isn't consistent enough to be "rested".He stunk the place out tonight.Yet we still tried to kick it to him all bloody match.
Hampson looked very dangerous at half forward....so why not clear the decks and play him there one out, instead of persisting with a kick it to Jarrod Waite plan all night?

Ellard good when he came on.
I cannot help but think we are one polished inside mid short of being a serious contender.

Not to mention pretty hard to achieve.

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Great point. Hope someone in the media called him out on this.

Poor tackling with the Saints consistently getting their hands free and losing possession to drop the ball. So much for our grappling and tackling work we did in the pre-season. Lack strength in the contest.

Armfield shouldn't be allowed to kick in the backline. You could see the turnover coming as they pressured him and forced him to kick wide. Ditto for Bower with the poorly weighted kicks that show too much to the opposition. Need Yarran and Laidler back. And some question why Gibbs is played back.

Coaches should have pushed Henderson forward and Waite back, but they just persisted with the set up that wasn't working. Have to go wide because we lack a big body there who can stand under the pack. Thornton was dropped, but he's another lead up target like Waite and Walker. He wouldn't have been the difference as a forward. Arguably more valuable than Bower.

Saints showed us up under the roof with Koschitzke, Riewoldt, Wilkes and Stanley forward. They went short, short and then long to tall targets in space. They separated our backline and got clean ball because no one was pressuring. That's why Saad, Milne and Milera were dangerous tonight. Russell had a shocking bounce, but it's inexcusable that no one was goal side and supporting him. IIRC, one of the tallest players on the ground in Stanley was free with no one between him and goals. Pretty unforgiveable set up.

Not playing team footy with four players going for the ball instead of blocking for each other.

Idiotic and reactionary to pot Carlton for not getting Saad who had a paddock to work in. He would have struggled if he was in Garlett's or Betts' shoes. Ellard did more because he's hungry for the contest.

Just carried on with the form from last week. Anyone who saw that game would have had grave doubts about them winning tonight. Belted out of the centre and a failure to work hard enough, same as against GWS. Can't be too hard on the defenders considering how the ball was coming in.

Forward line too static too often, jeeze you've got to run to space and to the contest. It's all about numbers to the ball and holding it in, the ball came out way too easily too many times. The age old problem of red time goals once again, is that down to the coach or just a lack of discipline? Blind Freddy could have forecast a couple of those late goals, just an inability to lock down the opposition.

Thornton back next week (should never have been out) Joseph out. I don't know what to think of Gibbs, so much talent, but so often disappointing. To the forward line and tell him to run and run and then run some more? We need somebody else down there who is prepared to lead up.

Exposed as frauds tonight

We had the easiest possible run into tonight. We fired up for the first qtr, much like a final but we faded and gave away easy goals.

I cant recall our backline playing so badly in a long time.

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