Report for Waite's tackle was ludicrous. So too the free against Laidler for their first - a push in the chest. Flower me. If he hadn't pushed him the guy's elbow would have connected with his face.

Richmond will be a decent team this year, so I think this win may be better than some think.

Just imagine if Walker had been in the forward line...

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You asked and I wil answer... his 5 minute stint on Cotchin was very poor, refused to take a hit and put his body on the line when most of the other 21 did it all night. He was the weak link tonight, 25yrs old, 100+ games, it is his time now or never. Last year he was terrible, may be it was lack of form, may be it was injury, may be you can tell us since you are so informative and quick to query anyone that dares to question a player on our list.

And yes it was a great night, almost perfect but unfortunately JR did not have a good night.

Not sure any of the criticism has been over the top.

He was not our best player whether you like it or not.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Its late, I am tired so I can't be bothered to analyise the game. We won.. Next week the Filth will smash them and thier season will be well and truely done. The ferals will start burning memberships and calling for Dimmas head and they will the shambles they have been for 30 years. Screw 'em.

Same to the commentators who only realised Carlton was going to win about halfway through the last and suddenly decided we were doing O.K

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I can't believe we chose Kruezer ahead of Vickery

Richmond were competitive, but they really set themselves for this game and still came up well short in the end. I can't see them being much different to last year, still way too much rubbish on the list. Their about 4 years behind us, with no real likelihood of getting to even our current level.

Why was everyone in the media so desperate for Richmond to win? Was there some kind of deal going on? Its been truly bizzare the past few weeks the Richmond love. It seems to have replaced their Essendon* love. Their even being called brave! How the hell were they brave tonight? Brave they didn't lose by 15 goals when they were expected to win by 75% of 'experts'?

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Bower and Laidler were excellent in defence. Spoil after spoil. Laidler dropping off in front of the pack. Tuohy/Armfield good dash. Murphy a dominant second half. Kreuzer back in town.

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I think my favourite part of the night was when Lethal threw out the question : "So who would you take Hammer or Vickery?"

Hartley (doing his best imitation of an erect circumcised penis) say's "Vickery, better footballer"

Then in the last quarter Lethal made the comparison again, just to twist the knife.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

We still would have beaten them.

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Such a great night you couldn't find anything else to say other than to stick it to JR. Is that the best you have on JR, Cotchin got away from him in a 10 minutes effort?

1. The delivery to Cotchin was fairly good on 1 occasion.
2. Cotchin is no slouch and can easily make very, very good players look 2nd rate.
3. It was well document JR struggled with injury for most of the year, lost confidence and lost his way.

No doubt about it in 2011 but you have quickly forgot 2010. Strange as it may seem not every one of the 22 can be a star each week.

Regards Cazzesman

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Great win tonight....never in doubt.... we are streaks ahead of the tigers....Cazz why don't you just let people express themselves as they see fit on these forums without being so nitty picky....express your views the way you see it and allow others the same privilege....Go Blues!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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5 possessions in three quarters of football Cazz. The real disappointment here is that we tried to use him as a partial replacement for Duigan; that is a sad indictment on his leg speed at present. His midfield spell was no fun either.

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The biggest positive to come out of tonight has to be Hammer!
He started to look so dangerous towards the end of the night. He's finally using his strength and size to protect the space where the ball is going to drop and give himself the best chance of marking it. He will get a lot of free kicks if he can do this as defenders panic when they know they won't be able to get near the ball. Perfect example was the free he got in the goal square.

Took a mark on the wing near the end of the game where he just shoved his opponent out of the way. I think he surprised himself and played on and turned it over, but it looked like it just clicked to him how big and strong he is.

A key forward has been the big hole in our team. If Hammer can have a break out year I think we can take the next step and challenge for a flag.
This will free up Waite and walker as well and suddenly with Betts and Garlett and a resting mid we have a formidable forward line

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Whilst I agree with your sentiments about people focusing on the negative too much sometimes, I am concerned about JR, who is one of my favorite players.

From my amateur perspective, he hasn't improved as much as I would've liked, but there is the caveat that it's only round one.

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Cazz, I generally agree with you in that some people unfairly have a go at certain players over and over again.
But really, no ones making a personal attack at the guy. No ones saying he should be delisted tomorrow.
I thought the point of having forum like this was to analyse the game. The pros and the cons.
I don't see what is wrong with making an observation that JR is struggling, because he is. There's nothing offensive there.
It's just a comment about his current output on the footy field, because as it stands, he should be dropped for one of lucas, walker, or duigan.

I hope he recaptures his 2010 as much as you do, but that's not going to stop me saying when he has a bad game

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We responded well after a mediocre start, but there's a lot of work to be done as the season progesses, and sadly most of it is lessons we have not learned about our play from last season, that opposition teams have.

I think it's worth noting how underwhelming the midfield work in the defensive half was this evening. The majority of our zone once the ball was in the centre circle area was still well within 45 metres of the ball, which made it very simple to kick it over the top. Our defenders did well to stop some of these, but we still let in at least 4 or 5.

The defenders need to sit back about 10 to 15 metres deeper, and the mids who are not pushing into the 50 when we attack need to drop back another 20 to 25, because we seem to be rolling the dice and inviting this 40-50 m kick over the top, and good teams will burn us with the paddock. The paddock won't win you games if you play it every week, but there's 17 teams out there who are more than happy to roll it out for the chance of 4 points against us.

Cannot understand why we play shotgun football in an age of tactical depth. It's plain to see we can bring finals intensity, but can we play a game style that doesn't spend an unnecessary amount of energy winning the ball and defending simple f50 entries, so that can be channelled into better link play and f50 entries down the other end?\

Oh and the fact that some players don't look for options through the centre of park when they're on a flank (which is a lot in our game plan) is really poor, and it's been happening for too long. By all means I get the idea of playing both flanks and how it opens up a zone set up, but when the man is on in the corridor, you give him the ball and work the opposition over. Kreuzer was free far too often waving his arms around like an idiot. Could have had 25 possessions tonight if he had have been honoured.

Which finally brings me to my last point: Kreuzer's use of the ball at stoppages. It was really, really irritating to see a modern day footballer receive the ball at the stoppage and blindly hoof it forward regardless of the field position or situation. I don't care that the ball went 60 metres; if there's a short option on and you don't know where else to go except hit and hope, you do not hit and hope. You hit up that guy and look to run a pattern that frees you up. Crap like that on a regular basis will see it raining opposition goals.

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I have expressed my opinion and for the record my opinion is that there is just no pleasing some supporters and I think it is poor form that after a good win with many highlights that the best some posters can do is have a cheap dig at JR because he didn't have a great night.

Regards Cazzesman

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