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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:53 am 
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No comment on Yarran's short steps on the wing going to a marking contest? I know it's only pre-season but it was a pretty pissweak effort.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:05 pm 
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No comment on Yarran's short steps on the wing going to a marking contest? I know it's only pre-season but it was a pretty pissweak effort.


Yarran's biggest flaw as a footballer, but you'd take that once a game as a trade off for him doing things that many others can't in the rest of the game.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:09 pm 
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I agree with those above who thought Casboult is ahead of Rowe. Regardless of the reasons, Rowe didn't have the presence of Casboult last night and it appears Casboult has more flexibility. Whether or not either plays a lot of footy this year will depend on injuries and if we can afford to keep Waite up front (a must IMO)


Casboult is not ahead of Rowe for the forward post.
He looks o.k. when running into a ball for a mark, but that's about where the effectiveness stops.

Rowe was happy to throw his body around and had have we played a game befitting for a tall forward, it would have been quite different.
I felt for the guy, watching the ball come forward to a 2 or even 3 on one situation.
Ratten would have been happy for the intensity for the game that Rowe showed.

I wonder how Rowe would have gone if Carlton had played Rowe and Hampson in tandem to produce more one on one contests.

You can't stick a fork in a player who has played just a half of footy in his first game for a month.

Rowe hit the ball hard and created a crumb for one of our smalls after coming onto the ground.

Think that's what we saw in him.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:18 pm 
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Nothing's changed my mind yet on our KP forward roles in the short term. Thornton CHF, Waite FF. Rowe will take a few weeks to get his fitness back up after injury an while Casboult, I beiieve, will make it one day, is still getting there. The ruckman will be very dangerous resting where they won't get the same attention of the KP players hence can run straight at the ball when going for a mark. Their output will be diminished though if played in the KP. Too hard to ruck then try to be the key focal point forward.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:35 pm 
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Do remember this about yesterday's game, though:
We did not use Hampson in the ruck at all. Casboult is just not up to a ruck role and we lost plenty by not having someone feed our mids whilst Kreuzer was not there.



This was a very curious move by our Coaching Panel.

If Warnock is not available for the first few rounds - and Casboult has to be elevevated to our Main List to be eligible to play Round 1, and Rowe is clearly short of a few gallops.

Then it strikes me as nearly fair dinkum unbelievable that Hampson would not be used in the Ruck at all, as clearly Hampson would be required to play this role for the first few rounds of the season. :? :? :?


I wondered if they were leaving Hampson in the forward line to see how he went playing solely up forward and on a decent defender.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:40 pm 
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Nothing's changed my mind yet on our KP forward roles in the short term. Thornton CHF, Waite FF. Rowe will take a few weeks to get his fitness back up after injury an while Casboult, I beiieve, will make it one day, is still getting there. The ruckman will be very dangerous resting where they won't get the same attention of the KP players hence can run straight at the ball when going for a mark. Their output will be diminished though if played in the KP. Too hard to ruck then try to be the key focal point forward.

The problem with our KP forwards last year (and likely this year too, looking how our early injury-fortunes have gone) is that since Fev's been gone, we've never been able to settle anyone into a prolonged spell in ONE position. We've always been left to patch up holes elsewhere, which robs our talls of any continuity whatsoever. Waite, Walker, Warnock, Kreuz, Hendo, Thornton, Hammer have ALL had interrupted spells themselves, or been moved around because we've had a hole to fill somewhere else. It's no wonder we can't establish a genuine key forward, because none get to play in one spot long enough, and when one does look to have turned the corner they get injured. Now with Waite, Jamo, Laidler, Mitchell, Duigan and Warnock already under clouds before a ball a bounced in anger, the cycle may just repeat again.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:44 pm 
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missnaut wrote:
AGRO wrote:
harker wrote:
Do remember this about yesterday's game, though:
We did not use Hampson in the ruck at all. Casboult is just not up to a ruck role and we lost plenty by not having someone feed our mids whilst Kreuzer was not there.



This was a very curious move by our Coaching Panel.

If Warnock is not available for the first few rounds - and Casboult has to be elevevated to our Main List to be eligible to play Round 1, and Rowe is clearly short of a few gallops.

Then it strikes me as nearly fair dinkum unbelievable that Hampson would not be used in the Ruck at all, as clearly Hampson would be required to play this role for the first few rounds of the season. :? :? :?


I wondered if they were leaving Hampson in the forward line to see how he went playing solely up forward and on a decent defender.

Ratten said exactly that at the press conference; they wanted minutes for Hampson as a forward this week.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:48 pm 
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Wojee wrote:
Heavs wrote:
No comment on Yarran's short steps on the wing going to a marking contest? I know it's only pre-season but it was a pretty pissweak effort.

Yarran's biggest flaw as a footballer, but you'd take that once a game as a trade off for him doing things that many others can't in the rest of the game.


Ratten wouldn't take it once a regular game, but once a NAB game may just be O.K.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:50 pm 
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harker wrote:
Wojee wrote:
Heavs wrote:
No comment on Yarran's short steps on the wing going to a marking contest? I know it's only pre-season but it was a pretty pissweak effort.

Yarran's biggest flaw as a footballer, but you'd take that once a game as a trade off for him doing things that many others can't in the rest of the game.


Ratten wouldn't take it once a regular game, but once a NAB game may just be O.K.


Wasn't speaking for Ratten :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:39 pm 
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Carlton coach Brett Ratten wants Blues to kill the clock

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/c ... 6289428570

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:51 pm 
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chubbyruss wrote:
Carlton coach Brett Ratten wants Blues to kill the clock

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/c ... 6289428570

How the journo came up with that statement is beyond me. Article even says Ratten was concerned that we couldn't keep the ball in our half late in the game (i.e. score, forward press, not wind the clock down per se).

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:53 pm 
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You actually have to be in front to start winding the clock down.

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Carrazzo offered a 1-week ban as the result of combining two penalties for striking.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:58 pm 
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Carrazzo offered a 1-week ban as the result of combining two penalties for striking.



Can we ask for 3???

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:02 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
Carrazzo offered a 1-week ban as the result of combining two penalties for striking.



Would he serve it next week a la Rhys Conca or against Richmond :?:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:09 pm 
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Carrazzo offered a 1-week ban as the result of combining two penalties for striking.

appeal it immediately!

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Hehe!! Obviously didn't want to go to Queensland and can now stay home with the girls. Father of the year award beckons.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:33 pm 
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Wojee wrote:
Heavs wrote:
No comment on Yarran's short steps on the wing going to a marking contest? I know it's only pre-season but it was a pretty pissweak effort.


Yarran's biggest flaw as a footballer, but you'd take that once a game as a trade off for him doing things that many others can't in the rest of the game.



Craig Bradley was pretty soft and I wouldn't have changed him for the world.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:48 pm 
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Craig Bradley was pretty soft and I wouldn't have changed him for the world.



One of the biggest misconceptions of all time. :wink:

If you call getting bashed from pillar to post being soft then Bradley was soft.

If you call belting players around the head a la Neil Balme 1973 Grand Final tough then Bradley was soft.

If you call running until you puked, and taking many many during a game of football tough then he was a very very tough player. :wink:

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