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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:00 am 
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I hope Josh Kennedy plays well.

Respect.



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I hope he doesn't get a touch.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:23 am 
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From Josh I want zero touches, zero injuries, and zero will to keep playing for WC after seeing what his old mates are now accomplishing.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:33 am 
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Eagles are better, but still basically the same side as last year. They miss targets when the heats on and poo their pants in the heat. Nat and Cox doing well, with Kerr back to his magic best.

BUT, thats it. If they don't score a goal every time they go forward they will get smashed by 60 points. They just won't get the ball enough.

They are this far up the ladder only because the rest of the comp, outside of Pies, Geelong and us, has gone backwards.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:40 pm 
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I saw Sydney as our hardest team in this current patch. I think we have the capability to take out WCE by the tune of 8 goals or more.

Judd will be pumped for this one you'd think.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:45 pm 
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I think playing them at Etihad is a big advantage.
Let's focus on a 4 quarter effort with no fadeouts
and no injuries


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:50 pm 
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STOP LeCRAS !


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:28 pm 
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I wouldn't be dropping Hendo on his performance but I would drop him to bring in Waite if he's right to go.

Ellard is important to us so hope he comes up.

LeCras and Kennedy are dangerous for the Weagles, keep these guys under control and we'll be sweet.

In Warnock, Waite

Out Hammer, Hendo

Must win this as others have said Perth is unbearable when you lose to WC.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:40 pm 
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I would look at bringing in Brock for Curnow, who looks out of sorts, or Ellard if he doesn't get up. Form is form

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:27 pm 
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I think there's a lot of Carlton supporters who are as easy to suck in as Sysney Swans were on the weekend.

Henderson and Walker led right up as far as our HB line, time and time again. There Tex got a couple of possessions. If players chose to link up with Hendo he would have got those few possessions. They both presented.

After 3 Qtrs of footy we were 65 points up. I ask, what did Hendo and Walker do wrong?
Answer NOTHING. They led their KP opponents up the garden path and opened up our forwardline just as the MC said would happen.

I remember some of the best games and wins the baby blues had in our dark decade when Fev didn't kick goals or have many possessions. He played the decoy and sucked in the defenders (did it to the Pies and Bumbers and we won).

Sometimes it's not about statistics but strategy. The strategy worked. Don't read too much into Hendo's stats, and Tex isn't going to have to kick a bag every week to be effective.

I hope Hammer comes up. He's another player Carlton supporters have written off, but as I said it's not all about stats.
Can't see Ellard missing. Would rather Armfield's pace over Brock, if Ellard misses.

Geez I enjoyed winning all that money from Carlton supporters. Tried to bait Doc Sherrin because he backed Sydney, but not to be.

So we plucked a duck last weekend.
Another round against more birds. This time Eagles.
Lets pluck em too.

Should win by 10 goals this weekend...just as we all agree we should have won by 10 goals against the Swans.

Is anyone feeling nervous about this game?
IMO, there's only the games against the Pies, Bumbers and Hawks I am slightly nervous for, but I must admit, I'm excited about the opportunity to play them. Even this far out I am expecting us to demolish Bumbers and Hawks, and believe we have the game plan and personnel to beat the Pies. I just wish we could play the Pies 2 more times before the finals. Nevertheless, we'll get them the 2nd time in the GF.

We are hot property, and so is a spot in the Carlton 1st 22.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:37 pm 
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I'm not bagging Henderson but he didn't work hard enough in the first half and that was quite obvious watching the game. He was a little better in the second half though. Maybe its his fitness thats letting him down ?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:37 pm 
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I'm a fan of keeping both Curnow and Henderson in. There's a winning formula out there and it shows even with quiet days for some players, there is so much depth that we are a goal kicking machine.

Warnock in is a Monty, but I reckon someone else makes way for Waite, and Houlihan surely starts on the ground this week.

If there's any cloud over Touhy or Ellard then Houla comes on the ground and Waite starts on the bench, maybe as the sub for this week.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:45 pm 
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teknodeejay wrote:
I'm a fan of keeping both Curnow and Henderson in. There's a winning formula out there and it shows even with quiet days for some players, there is so much depth that we are a goal kicking machine.

Warnock in is a Monty, but I reckon someone else makes way for Waite, and Houlihan surely starts on the ground this week.

If there's any cloud over Touhy or Ellard then Houla comes on the ground and Waite starts on the bench, maybe as the sub for this week.


Surely you see that the pressure we put on helps our defense and the pressure put on is responsible for a large portion of our score. The pressure we apply wins us games. Why compromise that pressure by adding another tall?

Waite in for Henda. (if Waite is not ready then Henda plays)
Warnock or Carlos in for Hampson
Armfield for Ellard if required.

PS not saying Henda isnt a good player just at this stage Waite is better.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:52 pm 
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club29 wrote:
teknodeejay wrote:
I'm a fan of keeping both Curnow and Henderson in. There's a winning formula out there and it shows even with quiet days for some players, there is so much depth that we are a goal kicking machine.

Warnock in is a Monty, but I reckon someone else makes way for Waite, and Houlihan surely starts on the ground this week.

If there's any cloud over Touhy or Ellard then Houla comes on the ground and Waite starts on the bench, maybe as the sub for this week.


Surely you see that the pressure we put on helps our defense and the pressure put on is responsible for a large portion of our score. The pressure we apply wins us games. Why compromise that pressure by adding another tall?

Waite in for Henda. (if Waite is not ready then Henda plays)
Warnock or Carlos in for Hampson
Armfield for Ellard if required.

PS not saying Henda isnt a good player just at this stage Waite is better.


Henderson will be playing in the first 22 of our finals campaign. Get use to it.
Henda and Tex ran a lot of kms to support our backmen too.

There's room for both Waite and Henda. They are mobile and tough match ups.
Either way, I'll back the MC.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:10 pm 
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No arguments from me club29 and if Henderson has a quiet week then he has to be questioned, but I think he is critical to our long term success and has to be ready to go by finals.

Ratten knows what his KPIs are, and whether he has met them or not re: attack at the ball, giving the mosquitos first use and assisting around the ground.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:13 pm 
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#1 Blue wrote:
Hornet wrote:
I rate WC moreso than the Swans that we just beat. They just have more individuals (Kerr, Kennedy, Cox, LeCras, Niknat etc...) that can hurt an opposition and a pretty damn good press.

Outs due to injury: Ellard & Hampson should see Warnock get a run. Will the MC be brave enough to give McLean another run?

I'd be filthy if Henderson is dropped after a relatively quite second game back. He is a player we need come finals time and needs the run for his own confidence.

Bring back Waite (if fit) and play him off a half back flank, thus releasing Gibbs to a midfield role.

Blues by 43 pts...


Why on earth would you re-structure your backline and midfield around hendo. Piss hendo off bring in waite and the forward line is already 4 goals better for it.....What has hendo done to prove we need him come finals time??????????????????????????


go back and watch the Bris game again. We need BOTH fit and firing and the quicker they're both on the park at the same time working in tandem with Kruze spending plenty time in fwd line, the better. Hendo is a vital piece of our immediate future.
A 3 prong fwd line of Waite Hendo Kruze, with Betts Galett Walks as medium smalls - if working well - I reckon is unstoppable.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:27 pm 
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I’ve bagged Henderson on here today, only for his work rate in the first half, which appeared way down on his efforts last week. However, I absolutely believe, fit and firing, that he’s in our best 22.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:29 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
club29 wrote:
teknodeejay wrote:
I'm a fan of keeping both Curnow and Henderson in. There's a winning formula out there and it shows even with quiet days for some players, there is so much depth that we are a goal kicking machine.

Warnock in is a Monty, but I reckon someone else makes way for Waite, and Houlihan surely starts on the ground this week.

If there's any cloud over Touhy or Ellard then Houla comes on the ground and Waite starts on the bench, maybe as the sub for this week.


Surely you see that the pressure we put on helps our defense and the pressure put on is responsible for a large portion of our score. The pressure we apply wins us games. Why compromise that pressure by adding another tall?

Waite in for Henda. (if Waite is not ready then Henda plays)
Warnock or Carlos in for Hampson
Armfield for Ellard if required.

PS not saying Henda isnt a good player just at this stage Waite is better.


Henderson will be playing in the first 22 of our finals campaign. Get use to it.
Henda and Tex ran a lot of kms to support our backmen too.

There's room for both Waite and Henda. They are mobile and tough match ups.
Either way, I'll back the MC.


The MC are sweating on what to do with them two. Ratts spoke about in that interview with Mathews.
I reckon there is a good chance that Henda might be playing in the finals too but someone somewhere will have to lose form or get injured which is more than likely going to happen.

I am not anti henda but i am all over this team balance thing and am more than happy for the MC to leave good players out to maintain what we have going. We need the run to apply the pressure for as long as we can. That is whats winning us games. Yesterday in the last we lost one player and and the pressure dropped and the whole team performance dropped away.
That is a good reference point for the coaches to look at when thinking of messing with the mix.

Henderson will be as star from 2012 onwards. If i say "get use to it" does that make it so? :razz:


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:32 pm 
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Laguna Legend wrote:
[ We need BOTH fit and firing and the quicker they're both on the park at the same time working in tandem with Kruze spending plenty time in fwd line, the better. Hendo is a vital piece of our immediate future.
A 3 prong fwd line of Waite Hendo Kruze, with Betts Galett Walks as medium smalls - if working well - I reckon is unstoppable.


No arguments here. Pretty tantalising, isn't it. :smoking:


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:51 pm 
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Hampson out 6-8

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:54 pm 
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Hampson out 6-8

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That's better than 10-12.


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