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 Post subject: Re: Laidley to Blues?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:44 pm 
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Bradley is an astute coach and has an innate understanding of the game. He's also very valuable during the pre-season to the young midfielders...

Yeah but they might get a bit lonely going off to train on their own every preseason...

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 Post subject: Re: Laidley to Blues?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:00 pm 
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Most coaches and ex-coaches will say there is little to be achieved on match day. They say there is a limited amount the coach can change during a game. The best tactics and plans are done in the pre-match preparation.
Laidley always seemed to come up with the right game plan, so he's a good candidate. But lets interview a few and hire the best.
I think Ratts will be told that changes will be made and he'll have to accept it.


Get Harmes outta the BP and into the middle :wink:

If this fails start a brawl.

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 Post subject: Re: Laidley to Blues?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:49 pm 
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The role of coach has changed ramatically in football over the last few years and you need good assistants in every role. I understand that we as a club like to reward long serving players and if they want to try their hand at coaching give them a chance or a start. Now is the time for them to move on and build their resume. Most players who want to become full time coaches know that you need to leave your club and work at one or two others to build your resume and get some ideas about how other clubs work. We have a few at our club - Riley - Melbourne, Harvey - Saints, Capuiano -North Melbourne, but I think we need to grab some assistants from clubs that are leading the way in tactics fitness and development. Get the best to bring out the best in our kids.


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 Post subject: Re: Laidley to Blues?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:51 pm 
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get rid of the hacks wrote:
buzzaaaah wrote:
Most coaches and ex-coaches will say there is little to be achieved on match day. They say there is a limited amount the coach can change during a game. The best tactics and plans are done in the pre-match preparation.
Laidley always seemed to come up with the right game plan, so he's a good candidate. But lets interview a few and hire the best.
I think Ratts will be told that changes will be made and he'll have to accept it.


Get Harmes outta the BP and into the middle :wink:

If this fails start a brawl.

'70s footy was great :thumbsup:


Yep. "Swap McConville and Brown between HBF and FF" was another one that caught 'em off-guard at least once a week. And then "Fitzy to CHF, Maclure to FF".

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 Post subject: Re: Laidley to Blues?
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buzzaaaah wrote:
Most coaches and ex-coaches will say there is little to be achieved on match day. They say there is a limited amount the coach can change during a game. The best tactics and plans are done in the pre-match preparation.
Laidley always seemed to come up with the right game plan, so he's a good candidate. But lets interview a few and hire the best.
I think Ratts will be told that changes will be made and he'll have to accept it.


I disagree with this buzzah.

Theres a saying in the military that all plans, no matter how well made, rarely survive the first 5 seconds of combat.

Good leaders, managers, are the ones that can react to changing situations the best.

Take for example us last week against Richmond. Who would have thought they'd play Deledio on Henderson? So when they did, doesn't this change any gameplan that was in place? And doesn't it call for a coach who can react to the change and exploit it? eg get it long to Hendo now and exploit the height/weight difference?

I can remember a chat with a runner for North who could have followed Pagan to the Blues but ended up at the Saints. When asked about Thomas, he said that Sunday to Friday, he was one of the best coaches he had ever seen, brilliant. But come match day, as soon as plans begun unravelling, he had no idea. He said there were times when everyone, from the boot studder up knew a change was required, but nothing came from Thomas.

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 Post subject: Re: Laidley to Blues?
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What about Walls' masterstroke of Dorotich to CHF and Hunter to HFF in the '87 GF after both playing strictly HB all year?

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 Post subject: Re: Laidley to Blues?
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I can remember a chat with a runner for North who could have followed Pagan to the Blues but ended up at the Saints. When asked about Thomas, he said that Sunday to Friday, he was one of the best coaches he had ever seen, brilliant. But come match day, as soon as plans begun unravelling, he had no idea. He said there were times when everyone, from the boot studder up knew a change was required, but nothing came from Thomas.


There was a rumour going around at the time that Thomas would have a radio and/or TV tuned to the game in the coaches box so he could pinch ideas from the commentators :grin:

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 Post subject: Re: Laidley to Blues?
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There was a rumour going around at the time that Thomas would have a radio and/or TV tuned to the game in the coaches box so he could pinch ideas from the commentators :grin:


I've often wondered if coaches had people to monitor the experts looking for analysis they may have missed.

Then again, too much information can be a bad thing but why not as its free.

Just ignore Dwayne, Monga and a swag of others!

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 Post subject: Re: Laidley to Blues?
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Would be a good get but i've heard we've had a chat to Lethal


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 Post subject: Re: Laidley to Blues?
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AIRCAV wrote:
Wojee wrote:
There was a rumour going around at the time that Thomas would have a radio and/or TV tuned to the game in the coaches box so he could pinch ideas from the commentators :grin:


I've often wondered if coaches had people to monitor the experts looking for analysis they may have missed.

Then again, too much information can be a bad thing but why not as its free.

Just ignore Dwayne, Monga and a swag of others!


I remember reading an article, sometime during Terry Wallace's tenure as Richmond coach, which explained that Wallace designated several of his staff to monitor TV and radio special comments during matches. I'm not sure whether he always did this, or whether anyone else did/does it, but he certainly did it for a time.

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 Post subject: Re: Laidley to Blues?
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Would be a good get but i've heard we've had a chat to Lethal


Oh yeah and who have you "heard" that from??

Or are you just posting for the sake of posting??

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 Post subject: Re: Laidley to Blues?
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Would be a good get but i've heard we've had a chat to Lethal


Oh yeah and who have you "heard" that from??

Or are you just posting for the sake of posting??


I think the answers are .....No one....and......yes......... :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Laidley to Blues?
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What about Walls' masterstroke of Dorotich to CHF and Hunter to HFF in the '87 GF after both playing strictly HB all year?


I'm not sure that that was really the masterstroke. In fact it almost came unstuck because neither of them could reliably kick straight.

The two masterstrokes in that game were Rhys Jones to CHB on Dermie (absolute masterstroke, completely unpredictable) and Glascott tagging Platten. IMO, these were the absolute winning tactics that turned the game our way, because as the previous year showed, they matched up pretty well on us.

But they were expecting Dorotich on Dermie and god knows who on Platten (maybe no-one really) and they had no Plan B to counter these moves.

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 Post subject: Re: Laidley to Blues?
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Blues2005 wrote:
AIRCAV wrote:
Wojee wrote:
There was a rumour going around at the time that Thomas would have a radio and/or TV tuned to the game in the coaches box so he could pinch ideas from the commentators :grin:


I've often wondered if coaches had people to monitor the experts looking for analysis they may have missed.

Then again, too much information can be a bad thing but why not as its free.

Just ignore Dwayne, Monga and a swag of others!


I remember reading an article, sometime during Terry Wallace's tenure as Richmond coach, which explained that Wallace designated several of his staff to monitor TV and radio special comments during matches. I'm not sure whether he always did this, or whether anyone else did/does it, but he certainly did it for a time.


All coaches have done this bcoz there has been info from the telecast that isn't available elsewhere.

Count down time clock a good example.


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 Post subject: Re: Laidley to Blues?
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Would be a good get but i've heard we've had a chat to Lethal


Yeah, he'd make an OK assistant to Ratts, I guess...... :razz:

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 Post subject: Re: Laidley to Blues?
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moshe25 wrote:
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What about Walls' masterstroke of Dorotich to CHF and Hunter to HFF in the '87 GF after both playing strictly HB all year?


I'm not sure that that was really the masterstroke. In fact it almost came unstuck because neither of them could reliably kick straight.

The two masterstrokes in that game were Rhys Jones to CHB on Dermie (absolute masterstroke, completely unpredictable) and Glascott tagging Platten. IMO, these were the absolute winning tactics that turned the game our way, because as the previous year showed, they matched up pretty well on us.

But they were expecting Dorotich on Dermie and god knows who on Platten (maybe no-one really) and they had no Plan B to counter these moves.


Correct Moshe.............in fact Rhys was generally acknowledged BOG.Fact that Dermie was not 100% helped no end.Fitness wise,they had a few underdone,and it was a extremely hot day which also played into our hands.

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Yeah.....I suppose I should've said.... ''what about Walls' series of masterstrokes in the '87 GF?''.......... :smile:

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what about the masterstroke in the carpark?

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what about the masterstroke in the carpark?


Brodies?

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 Post subject: Re: Laidley to Blues?
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grrofunger wrote:
what about the masterstroke in the carpark?

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