Worthy of a debate. I think Juddy is a good leader in terms of his preparation, aggression at the contest and conduct. I am not sure he is comfortable with the captaincy as he is an introverted type. He is in many ways a worthy leader but maybe not a natural leader. What makes it more difficult is that he has to lead so many that are also introverted types.

And you are so right about Cousins. Who can forget Cousins after the premiership cup was raised by Judd and Worsfold ... he immediately jumped up on stage and put the cup in his hands.

EFA

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I realize you are on a roll at the moment Synners and I'm on-board with some of it but the "stories" out of the WCE re who's the captain and who's the leader came from an interview Judd gave on the matter.

You would also remember that Judd didn't seek the captaincy, I don't think he covets it and he also didn't want the WCE captaincy. So why do so many people want him to be skipper when he'd rather someone else did it?


Probably because they see him as THE leader, he may not be Maxwell but to compare his leadership skills with Trailer Park Swan is a bit of a stretch.

Personally I think Simmo would be a great skip. He certainly gets the most out of himself.

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Im not sure who has the leadership skills and who hasnt.
Just said that Swann is the best player there but he isnt captain ... Maxwell is.

Im not sure Judd is a great captain... and not sure who would be a better captain.
though from the outside looking in he doesnt scream natural born leader ... nor do i know who might be better having never met the or know the players.
All i know is Judd has little personality and is a bit too cool for Captain...
He lacks that little bit of genuine warmth and a zest.

Ultimately the question is ... what makes a great captain?
What would be the qualities of a great captain...???

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Hahahahahahahahahahha

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Before we sack the coach , ditch the prez sack all the recruiters and delist half the team


This mob of pretenders should be sent packing

I was suss when they came in because this kind of stuff rewards thinkers and not doers and we need doers

Let your footy do your talking for you not have little love ins talking about it

Hate this kind of crap never works in business and a waste of time in sport

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Worked for Geelong six years ago.

I wanna see this guy get before the team and explain how he [REDACTED] up teaching them about leadership with all the money he has taken from the club....thats what i wanna see...

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And they were in pretty much the exact place we find ourselves now.

Jeremy Laidler would make a great captain !

Yes yes

Rats is Bomba
Sticks is Costa
Swann is Cooke
Curnow is ablett
Ellard is Chaps
Bower is Scarlett

and the best player is 23....

yep....

Look we have gone up this road before....

Even their jumper looks different...

We can say the same about the Dees... if they didnt change coach they would be iin line for 3 in 5... and everyone else too... just as long as you dont change coach...

Oh... and you dont draft mids..... not drafting mids... makes u a sure thing for a flag

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Thete is not one player who stands up and takes control when things go pear shaped . Judd tries with his ability but everyone else stands back and watches

Waste of time waste of money bunch of feel good wankers with slogans and gimmicks

Piss them off

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I'm pretty sure there's a book in there somewhere..."The Club that Couldn't be Led"...will be about Carlton, but of course names will be changed for legal reasons.

The current carlton culture will kill off any aspiring coach .... player of the century and psychologists.

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Is it fair to say that Leading Teams didn't really work for Carlton? If so, why? Especially when other clubs seem to have really grown after using LT.

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Too many passive aggressive types?

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Well that's something, I thought they were too passive passive.

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There is no honesty and acccountability anywhere at the club.
If its not off field its not on field.
They mirror each other.

They just do

Off field sets the tone.

Where is the review from last year?

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Posters can mock the concept of Leading Teams but the runs are on the board.
Leading Teams have had an ongoing relationship with Sydney for the past 12 years and Geelong for the past 7 years. Its no coincidence those clubs have the strongest and most successful cultures within the AFL.

The problem with the concept is people are told truths they aren't secure or mature enough to hear. Weak organisations bow to those people, strong organisations bring them into line or weed them out.
That's what Collingwood are going through now. I have no doubt they'll be a better and stronger club once the process is completed.
The concept also erodes the powerbase of autocrats with an organisation.
For all of those reasons you wont see the board or the coach of Carlton bringing LT back anytime soon.

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I can't talk about specifics, but the idea of LT is a good one. I think the reason it hasn't worked for us is that we seem to have a fear of failure (more than a desire for success) that has seeped into the club since our salary cap penalties. This goes from the very top, right down to the players. No-one has that "spark" to start the flame rolling, or the desire to push themselves beyond what they think they can be. They simply feel that if they're meeting their KPIs then that's enough, but it seems very few on our list (with the exception of Judd) strive to push beyond that and truly test their limits, or carry the responsibility of success on their shoulders. And of course...TOO MANY @#$%&! INTROVERTS!!!

Compare this with Geelong and Sydney, two LT success-stories. Strong leaders at board level who aren't afraid to shake things up, and players that simply refuse to accept defeat if they have a breath left in them. We've seen the Cats come back time and again when pushed, and Sydney in last year's GF wrote the textbook in grit (how many times did the Hawks smash them into the dirt, only to keep coming back?). For LT to do anything, there needs to be that initial spark, and when you consider that these teams had guys like Goodes, Bolton, Barry, Enright, Bartel, Harley etc to set the standards, is it any wonder that hard workers like Jack, Haneberry and Selwood have excelled in their own right?

Compare this with us. An amateur board made up of "the Boys Club" riding in the wake of Dick Pratt, comms/membership lagging well behind the big guns, and an attitude of "why don't these apathetic supporters buy memberships???" On-field we basically had to trade in a captain because our senior players (Stevens, Fev, Whitnall) lacked the professionalism and our younger guys weren't ready. But unfortunately Judd has set the tone for our introverts, preferring to lead by example rather than actively pushing those around him. Throw a tanking culture and MC afraid to make the truly tough decisions into the mix, and it's hardly surprising that there continues to be an attitude of complacency, comfort of being a highly-paid athlete, and a need for someone else to do the job when it counts most. The official line is that the players are giving their all to get this club back to the top, but how many of us truly believe this? External "professionals" can only do so much, but if the desire isn't there from the start, game over.

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Too many introverts

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