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 Post subject: Re: R11: Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:49 pm 
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Simpson was amazing
i thought he was our most vital player
not sure of his stats but he was gut running the whole game
also Sauce was fantastic
great shepard haha

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 Post subject: Re: R11: Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:17 pm 
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I was so proud of Simmo!! He even showed determination in the 3rd when the Dees came at us, he never stops running and getting right in the action.
All Australian and future captain ;-)

21 touches yesterday.

He has not had below 20 touches at all this season, he's champ.
What I like most about him is his left foot, he is such a good kick.

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 Post subject: Re: R11: Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:32 pm 
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Marissa wrote:
I was so proud of Simmo!! He even showed determination in the 3rd when the Dees came at us, he never stops running and getting right in the action.
All Australian and future captain ;-)

21 touches yesterday.

He has not had below 20 touches at all this season, he's champ.
What I like most about him is his left foot, he is such a good kick.


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Simmo is just fantastic. Even the rest of the AFL world is starting to wake up to this fact, though they are pretty slow on the uptake.


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 Post subject: Re: R11: Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:37 pm 
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He is ours! Everybody else can keep their filthy hands off him. :fight:

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 Post subject: Re: R11: Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:36 am 
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Pros:
Simpson
Houlihan
Walker
Jacobs

Cons:
Irish guy when things don't go well doesn't try hard enough
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 Post subject: Re: R11: Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:30 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
I've just finished watching the replay and his harshest critic would say he cost us one goal when he gave away a free for in the back to Jetta in the third. The ball then went through another 2 sets of hands before Melbourne kicked a goal. I'd argue that he was in the air before he realised the ball was going to go over the heads anyway.

Anderson is no star yet, and he may never get the chance to do it at Carlton given the depth we have, but I liked the Anderson I saw yesterday the way he wanted to attack the lines and use his pace. He wasn't one of our best, but he showed good signs yesterday imo.


Good to see someone standing up for Joey. I think he has been a solid contributor for the last 3 games. Unfortunately has has made mistakes that stand out. The free for in the back this week was a pretty poor mistake, but many so called supporters tehd to forget the ten times per game when he does something good for the team and only remember the mistake. Did we all castigate Judd when he kicked poorly accross goal two weeks in a row (both times costing us a goal) Did we all rubbish J Waite for jumping in an apponents back costing us a free?

Joey may not quite be in our best 22 when all players are fit, but if he has a few more periods like his first half against Melbourne, he will be pushing for a regular spot.

How about, instead of rubbishing our own, we celebrate the fact that we are soon going to be in a position where 6 or 8 players that miss out on our best 22 are very close and that we will be able to continue to cover injured players by players of similar ability and application.

How true is the quote of one commentator (ex Blue Player, captain, coach) who said something like "it is not how good are the best six players that make a top team but how good are the last six".

Pro's - we won without playing anywhere near our best.

Con's - I tossed up between Houla (at 20/1 and Simmo at 41/1) for first goal and put $20 on Houla.

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 Post subject: Re: R11: Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:43 am 
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Irish guy when things don't go well doesn't try hard enough


That is unfair criticism of a player who never stops trying. He may not be the most skillfull but you can not question his effort or attitude. :banghead:

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 Post subject: Re: R11: Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:52 am 
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How about, instead of rubbishing our own, we celebrate the fact that we are soon going to be in a position where 6 or 8 players that miss out on our best 22 are very close and that we will be able to continue to cover injured players by players of similar ability and application.


That sums it up perferctly NTBlue.
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 Post subject: Re: R11: Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:52 am 
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Pros Credited with 90 tackles on Saturday.

Blues now 3rd on the list for average tackles per game at 74 after the 11 rounds. That a Stat I like to see. :thumbsup:

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 Post subject: Re: R11: Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:00 pm 
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Good to see someone standing up for Joey.


Sadly human nature in sport dictates that supporters need a team whipping boy. JR has moved on and thus a replacement has now been found.

The mentality of it all deludes me. It's abit like the Roman spectators in the Collosseum I guess. Many live in secret hope that they can give the sign..........

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 Post subject: Re: R11: Pros & Cons
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Noonamah Blue wrote:
Rhys26 wrote:

Cons:
Irish guy when things don't go well doesn't try hard enough


That is unfair criticism of a player who never stops trying. He may not be the most skillfull but you can not question his effort or attitude. :banghead:


I reckon he tends to drop his head a bit if things don't go his way sometimes


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 Post subject: Re: R11: Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:55 pm 
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Rhys26 wrote:
Noonamah Blue wrote:
Rhys26 wrote:

Cons:
Irish guy when things don't go well doesn't try hard enough


That is unfair criticism of a player who never stops trying. He may not be the most skillfull but you can not question his effort or attitude. :banghead:


I reckon he tends to drop his head a bit if things don't go his way sometimes


Yeah.... nahhhhh

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 Post subject: Re: R11: Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:37 pm 
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Cons:

Everytime Simmo gets the ball, the commentators mention his wrong side. I haven't seen him miss with his right in months. Time for the commentators to accept that he has skills on both sides. Forget the wrong side myth, and focus on the barometer line instead.

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 Post subject: Re: R11: Pros & Cons
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Kizzapalooza wrote:
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Everytime Simmo gets the ball, the commentators mention his wrong side. I haven't seen him miss with his right in months. Time for the commentators to accept that he has skills on both sides. Forget the wrong side myth, and focus on the barometer line instead.


Simmo seems better than most left-footers at actually getting on to his "right side" (his left).

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 Post subject: Re: R11: Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:08 pm 
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I suspect Simmo needs to put on more weight or perhaps wear a hat with a flashing light. At least twice on Saturday he sprinted to put himself in a perfect position to recieve the ball, only to be ignored or unseen by team mates.

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 Post subject: Re: R11: Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:49 pm 
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I'm not going to weigh into this too much. But Anderson was fine before it started to rain. Dare I say, his form was even encouraging. Put together with what he showed against the Eagles, and I see plenty of evidence that he is steadily improving.

He wasn't the only bloke who dropped his bundle when the rain fell. In fact, if the player wasn't a Tasmanian or Kade Simpson or Heath Scotland then it is fair to say that Ando had plenty of mates who struggled when the rain first started.

Is he currently in our best 22? No. But he looks a pretty handy depth player to me, and certainly not deserving of some of the vitriol from around here. In a few years if we persist then he may well be in our best side. I certainly wouldn't be writing him off yet. Here's an outrageous suggestion... start supporting some of our players and see how they go. If you abandon trying to scythe some of them down for every mistake, then you just may see some glimpses of what a guy could be. Let me tell you - it's far more fun to watch a game of footy with glass half full than glass half empty.

Pathetic some of the stuff that gets posted about our players around here. I wonder if some posters even barrack for Carlton.


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 Post subject: Re: R11: Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:54 pm 
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Noonamah Blue wrote:
Rhys26 wrote:

Cons:
Irish guy when things don't go well doesn't try hard enough


That is unfair criticism of a player who never stops trying. He may not be the most skillfull but you can not question his effort or attitude. :banghead:


yep,you me and NY agree on that. :smile:
Love the Irish.
Love the team...Ando has been a pleasant surprise for me..he is progressing well.
and....if I might venture this too...
All we are saying......is give Brock a chance.
Seriously...give the fella some time.
I've seen him do some great things..and I've learnt my lesson with JR.
Hendo is already way better than at the start of this year...and i expect a few people will be surprised when Brock is 100%.
He does have some people who still believe in him.
I like Haddles too for what it's worth...but when the team is winning and showing such great promise...it really irks me to see so much angst and/or nastiness directed at our own players.

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 Post subject: Re: R11: Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:04 pm 
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Juzzy wrote:
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But the biggest con was the very poor effort from Garlett today...gave very little....should be dropped this week.


Thought he was good, definitely an important player for us.


I watched him closely the whole game and failed to see any effort to chase or tackle...what did u see that i didn't Juzz?

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 Post subject: Re: R11: Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:09 pm 
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dannyboy wrote:
also count the goals he helped set up in the first with his run and dash.


I kind of agree re Ando...just have a feeling if we persist with him he will make it...his run and carry is vital...I reckon he just needs more game time and some confidence....

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 Post subject: Re: R11: Pros & Cons
PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:16 am 
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Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
Juzzy wrote:
Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
But the biggest con was the very poor effort from Garlett today...gave very little....should be dropped this week.


Thought he was good, definitely an important player for us.


I watched him closely the whole game and failed to see any effort to chase or tackle...what did u see that i didn't Juzz?



Gee thats harsh Juddy. He wasn't great more okay, but he did lay five tackles, which isn't awful. I know we are likely to get a few back over the coming weeks and a few will have to make way, but no credits in the bank for his game against West Coast just a week before? The poor kid looked like he was suffering from hypothermia in the second half :lol:


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