Well that 's ok....
Just as long as we're not a few sandwiches short of the full picnic.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

I have a feeling.

Anything is Possible.......but is it probable?? It sure is fun to contemplate!

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Don't look at me, I'm irrelevant....

A 17th flag is certainly coming - but exactly when this occurs - is an unknown.

There are many odd twists and turns that the reality that we all experience can take -

For example - I predicted a couple of years back that Carlton was destined to lose a key player - and there would be a great deal of soul searching and trouble associated with this event - but it would soon pass - and we would be better than before.

However at the time, I was not able to bring myself to accept that the player that I saw leave the club was in fact to be Fevola.

Well fast-forward to the second half of May 2010 - and how many people miss Fevola?

The final reality that is chosen is indeed an odd thing that we are not allowed to fully see in advance - well the term 'advance' of course particularly applies to humans that are imprisoned by time itself - but what is possible is that we can glimpse bits and pieces to form a picture that we fill in at our peril.

Another thing that I have mentioned for many years now is that I saw a player running off half back for an absolutely superb goal in a grand final - and I heard the commentator at the time call this player 'Power'.

Early on there was speculation that we might trade for Luke Power - but clearly - this is not the player I saw. In any event at that time we did not have anywhere near the team that is needed to win a flag.

So in relation to our 2010 flag chances - I suggest that we need to carefully watch the progress of one Paul Bower.

A further more general thing that I have spoken of in the past is the style of play of the future flag winning Carlton team - how pace, run and rapid ball movement, particularly out of defence - with speed that gives the opposition little time to react - will be a hallmark of this premiership team.

Well - it does indeed look like this is what is occurring - so we are getting close to premiership glory - but exactly how close is shrouded in mystery.

So what I do understand is that Carlton does win a flag during the outbreak of a serious war in the world - I’ve always thought that this would be the 17th - but of course this isn’t set in stone.

I also suggest that we win a flag with a young coach in his first year.

This of course means that a 2010 flag isn’t an impossibility - it just may be that this particular coach might be the 18th cup. In say 2012...a year in which we are all very likely to experience serious global troubles.

As for 2010 - Well Collingwood look very good this year - luck is certainly turning their way - but we need to see how they are traveling in a months time - because reversals of form during the season - with a fall in ladder position - and Collingwood go hand in hand.

If they reach round 14 and are still top of the ladder - then, clearly the chances of a form reversal will have passed and it will be replaced by a rather arrogant magpie self belief that 'this is their year'

The last thing I want to see is a Collingwood flag - which if it occurred would make 2010 a year to erase from my memory as quickly as possible.

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My Blue Heaven

Good to see you are covering all your bases there Blueman.
Maybe it was 'Bower' and not 'Power' hmm?

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

I want to win a final first.

Can't win the flag until you can win in finals

How is it possible we would win a flag this year and have a first year coach in 2012?

Will our fall from grace be so sudden in 2011 that the sack Ratten thread influences the board?

there ya go adam.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Sorry Blueman, call me sceptic but your stuff is just fantasy, any one of TC's posters could hypothesise what you say without the pretense of being mystical, and still have the same success rate!

Its entertaining seeing you backflip and justify/qualify your predictions though so keep up the good work!

As for these historical quotes re:Fev and "power" can you give me a hint as to which threads they are in, I love to see them!

Patience Grasshopper.

The world is not flat.
Nothing is finite.
The gods can be at war.
Things can change on earth as they are in heaven.
The first year coach may in fact have a newborn which makes him the first in the coaches family.
Many messages, some mixed.
Interpretation and definition needs time and clarity.

What we do know is that the Blues are on the improve.
If they keep up the rate of improvement, the Blues will be pemiers with only 10 points kicked against them in the GF.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

I think if we can kick the first goal, then hold the ball in the air for the rest of the game, we're a shoe-in .

In a low scoring affair.

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Thank you all for the clarification, I thought I was going mad, but alas, I just didn't understand.

All those that do these things backflip and change - its just part of the trade that sits uneasily with the reality that most people demand nothing less than a perfect record.

Re : historical posts - about Power and flag during a war - I have made these predictions repeatedly over the years since 2001.

Re : a player leaving - I believe that this would have been in 2007.

Actually, there is an historical precedent for Carlton winning a flag with a coach in one year - and then winning another flag with a different coach two years later.

1979 - Jezza

1981 - Parkin..

The post 1979 period was a fairly tumultuous time and it wasnt hard to see that leadership issues meant that would not win a flag in 1980 with Percy Jones...but I always thought that we had the players with the potential to do this. On a practical level it was probably not possible - but the issue is still something that irritates..

Re : Collingwood - Ive been 50 50 on the May champions syndrome for them in 2010 - but thankfully, now its more like 70 30..

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My Blue Heaven

Predicting is always a little easier with hindsight.

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

our best football is good enough to win a flag thats for sure.

we arent without hope this year, but logic would suggest we wont until we become more consistent.

as good as collingwood is, and they are very consistent, i think the difference between them winning a flag and not is class, of which, they dont have a huge amount. they have some quality, but not enough.

carlton on the other hand. has some serious talent. if we can get the intensity up and consistency up, we are a very serious threat to winning a flag, not just this year, but for the next few years considering the youth of our team.

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Got to love the stare Down by Setanta on Llyod

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

A lot of predictions are just based on likely human behavior patterns, but sometimes people decide not to conform.

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My Blue Heaven

we will lose to freo in back to back games - round 22 and the first week of the finals

then we will beat port adelaide at home in the second round of the finals

then we will play geelong in a prelim final

who knows from there...

depends on the oil slick in the gulf of mexico

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

We need to be beat Essendon* first.

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