ah the good old days

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Fair dinkum Verbs you amaze me.
His 2009 from was excellent. Your definition of excellence is wrong.

Russell improved a lot in the second half the season. His confidence came out and his running out of the back line was really helpful to the team.

however he will always be a B grader at best because he doesnt have a good footy brain. You either have or hadnt. He hasnt.

Nothing wrong with that mind you. He has found his place on the back flank and comes across as a "professional footballer" unlike some of the other flower we have on our list.

And there is nothing wrong in setting the record straight about Jordan rather than what you want which is to paint everything with a rose coloured brush.

6th in the B&F was an excellent performance. Brilliant in fact. His 2009 was superb. Most of us here hope his 2010 will be even better. It's not rocket science.

Kouta had a very ordinary football brain earlier on also, not saying he'll be Kouta Mark 99-01 but your inference that he'll never get a footy brain is downright wrong.

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We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Suggesting JR will 'never' have a footy brain is a bit tough.
Unlike Setanta, he was born with the game, accelerated as a teen and selected as a top 10 pick to reflect his footy ability as a teen.

His last 8 games were very good. He broke the shackles and backed himself to create play and make things happen. He was finally using his footy brain and ASAIC he lost that indecisiveness and lack of confidence which hampered his footy.

He has ability, and a lot of that.
He has a great physique: height, strength and pace.
Dual sided player by hand and foot.
He has newfound confidence in himself which is reflected by his B & F result.

You can't take that away from him, and you can't compare the JR in his formative years with the one who excelled in the last 8 rounds of 2009.

2009 was his break out year. We all have to agree on that. Now the test for him is to step up once gain with a consistent year starting from round 1.

With Judd suspended, and the high probability that Walker, Houla and Betts wont be considered for round 1, and the possibility of those training in the recovery groups at present don't come up, like Murphy, Austin, Waite, Hampson....it's blokes like Russell who I turn to to take on the bulk of the work in the middle because I believe and hope he can continue his 2009 late form. He didn't just play and star at the HBF. He did play forward and in the middle when he earned those B & F votes.

There's no need to pigeon hole him when he's still 22yo, and has improved his game.

Time to move on from the old and appreciate the new. We can only go by the form he showed in his last games. He has earned respect for the time being. Kids grow in many ways. JR certainly seems to have done so, and I hope he continues to blossom.

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Haven't people vented about this bloke enough? I have been critical on occasion too but he doesn't even have the opportunity to show us where he is at until the season starts. Have a Bex and a little lie down for a while. The sky is NOT falling

should be in the leadership group

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

I asked keogh and he told me it is definitely falling.

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dane's trolling again

Got any thoughts on JR or is your only gimmick here to commentate on other posters?

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There's so much I could say...

Way to early for that. Let him establish himself consistently first. Maybe next year...

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There's so much I could say...

it appears he is being groomed for the role - or maybe its just a confidence boosting thing

JR fronted the media a lot last year and now today he has again on the front foot over our off field incidents

he handles the media well and is very good around the club

i wouldnt be suprised to see him in the leadership group , if not this year then soon.

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Is it the same posters saying he'll definitely only be a B grader that were saying he'll definitely not make it 18 months ago - "not up to it" "delisted as soon as season ends"; ring a bell geniuses ?:lol:

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Touche!!!

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You want the flame? Give us the marbles!!

I'm more an observational poster.
I suppose I could be more like you and criticize the club for anything and everything.

on JR

I think he's improving, make or break season really.

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dane's trolling again

..how many games has he played..?.. ..i think he may crack the tonne this season [?], and especially nowadays, a player that makes 100 games has 'made it'.. .... ..sure, it doesn't mean they're great or elite, but they've made it in my opinion.. ..if he continues his late season form, and i think he should/will,, then injury permitting he could rack up another 100 games over the years..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

well make in that he cements a place in the team as a good player.
or break as in he doesn't cement a spot and is a wiggins-esque ordinary player.

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dane's trolling again

Dane

you once asked on this website was there a music festival you could go to where you can take booze into.

I gave you POSITIVE advice. There is MEREDITH

Problem is it says on the ticket no flower allowed


I say Russell hasnt a footy brain . AN A grader is in the top 10% of players in the league. Russell isnt and never will be.

I will admit unlike you and your mate Verbs that I was wrong about getting rid of him.

He came on leaps and bounds in 09. Good on him

He also should be in the leadership group because he inst a flower unlike others on our list.

Gary Junior might be the best player player at Geelong but will never be captain because he unfortunately has some of his father's personality characteristics. Anyone who goes surfing when their injured and the team is playing wont be captain.
Luckily for Geelong he is more like his mum rather than loopy Nathan being more like his dad.

The best player is not often the best choice for captain. Bank on Ling being replaced by Selwood.

Dane it may even be that Russell would be a better captain than Judd. But the club who you think judging by the content of your posts hasnt nothing wrong with it wouldnt even give that the slightest consideration to that notion.

Oh when I go to Meredith the sky doesnt fall. I have a great time. Positive , happy and not a flower( well most of the time) . Just call what I see as an observer of the club. Nothing wrong with that is there

Personal attack?

Anyhow really water off a flower 's back i suppose, while I agree you have your right to call it how you see it, I still believe you see it from a glass is half empty perspective, and when applied to basically every topic it becomes quite tiresome. Maybe remember Meredith and lighten up, its football.

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dane's trolling again

...most know what you are..

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There's so much I could say...

Typo?

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