I'll help you out...we are overrated. So don't expect a flag this year.

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You got that right, him and Cloke. How much more time do we have left for squeezing blood from a stone?

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The boys must be proud to be collecting their pay packet this week. 4 blokes had a dip tonight.

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Hey guys, reporting in from the sunny Gold Coast. Recently returned from the game.

What an embarrassing game. I dont think I have seen us play so badly to be honest. We should be paying the AFL for the dent we put in there GC plans, terrible advertisement for the game.

Perfect night for a game, the stage was set for a ripper and we didn't show up. If we played like that against a half decent team we would have lost by 100+

Thankfully I have a week up here to look forward to!

As for Cararra...I liked it a lot. I had good seats, front row in a makeshift stand on the 50m arc. Was hard to see the other end but overall liked the stadium. I'm guessing by adding seats behind the goals really restricts crowd figures. It was basically packed and only 10k people there.

A lot of questions need to be asked.

Anywayyyy I hope your freezing your arse off in vic

i forgot to mention gameplan D - stand back and wait for the small handful of talented players to do it all by themselves and pull out something remarkable and freaky

judd and murphy are gonna be burnt out in 2 years , we are killing judd and we are also killing fev by holding the ball and waiting for him to be covered before remotely looking like kicking it to him.

nearly all our goals tonight were opportunistic - not much structure at all to them

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Ratts presser:

http://bigpondvideo.com/AFL/126106

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We are where we should be given we have no genuine ruckman in the side, a CHF who can mark consistently, and a backline that even though it tries hard lacks height and a certain amount of aggression. Structure, discipline, and faith in each others ability in respect to the game plan takes time I guess. We are a long way away from being a cohesive well drilled unit but hopefully the nucleus of this side can stay fit and develop together in the seasons ahead.

Can't win a ball at ground level
Can't stick a tackle
Can't make a decent decision
Can't kick accuartely
Can't get a decision from the umpire
Can't take a grab inside 50


Can't make the eight in a pink fit!!!!!

Don't know how I can watch the Collingwood game.

Joined in 2003 and have seen plenty of sh*t. Am sick of it. Expected better against;
Essendon*
Sydney
Freo

Take a good hard look at yourself Carlton. I work harder than you lot 5 days a week, year in year out. You mob can't get it together once a week for a season or two.

These guys get $500K+ for what I have seen over the last few weeks. Overpaid peacocks!! Prancing about with girls throwing their undies at them so they think they are superstars. Believing their own press. Get your hand off it. When you fellas are old and grey you will probably still think you were better than Wawrick Crapper.

Over rated. Over Paid.


Over Losing

Grigg is the only one who would add a spark, and he's not fit. Robbo maybe.

He mustn't be fit. He's been quiet and tonight played his first bad game for a while. He's got the pace and disposal to be useful offensively.

In case you didn't notice, he's being sarcastic!
/Homer

(right?)

Cheers for posting that. Ratten looked heartbroken at the end there.

Basically the same issues that we've been talking about for the past couple of years. We've invested in a ruckman, he's still injured and Sam Jacobs who was doing OK'isk is also injured. CHF has been a problem since Big Red's earlier years. Wouldn't you love a pack busting CHF like Earl Spalding? As for the backline ..... well that's been a work in progress since Ratts stopped playing.

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Can someone post the details of Ratten's press conference? Link not working for me.

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Not every team has everything to be a superside.

A good side is one well coached to overcome defficiencies.

Not everyone can claim Judd and our midfield either..

Thats what happens with a salary cap and a draft.... plus a weak competition ...

Not too many complete sides.

BUT.. you can dtill drill so players know how to go about playing as best they can... and in a pattern that works.

Thats where we fail!!!

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Just got back from the game.
Not gonna vent too much on all aspects of the game, as there is one thing that really pisses me off.
Why must we always play on blindly?????? Is there something wrong with taking a mark and looking around for a second BEFORE playing on???
Too much do I see a player take a mark and instantly play on. It either resulted in running into trouble, or handballing it to another player who gets tackled instantly, or handballing straight to the opposition!!!! It shits me to tears!!!
Take a few extra seconds to look around before doing anything!!

threw out some stats trying to say we should have done better with that stat count - mostly inside 50s

said kruezer was excellent , praised armfield as well

kicked 3.11 in second half not good enough

gold coast no excuse - take the stats to any other ground and we probably would have lost too

got caught out a few times with kicks over the top of us for easy goals to freo

if we want to be a better or maturing side we have to win these games and we didnt

was asked about fev and needing him to dominate to win - said he kicked 8 last week and we lost and has kicked small amounts in our wins

said we handballed too much

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Here here!!

I reckon the swans are reasonably well drilled and they were made to look little leaguers against the cats today...we still dont have the personnel to match it when it counts. Now if your goal is to be an Essendon* or a collingwood and be thereabouts and not achieve much in the end then thats a different story.

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Clokey tries hard, but who, apart from the MC thinks he is a key forward. He couldn't possibly hold his place next week, surely not. What on earth was the point of picking three ruckmen, we still got flogged in the ruck.

Wiggo is looking pretty ordinary at present. Yarran looks super classy but needs much greater fitness. Thought Austin showed a bit, has good balance and hands, Sandilands killed us but I'd persevere with HAmmo as second ruck (there's no-one else).

Still have shocking trouble clearing the oppo fifty.

I was in favour of Hadley playing the last few weeks, but he looked dreadfully slow tonight.

Gibbs plays the ink man but needs to get hard kicks as well as easy ones, he needs to watch how Murph goes about it.

I have always been in favour of Waite up forward.

I really don't want to hear the 'young side' "young coach' line trotted out again. The Dockers have possibly a younger side and an inexperienced coach.

If we hadn't got Judd, would we be much better than we were 3 years back? We's be a bit better but he adds 5 goals to our score each game.

Fev was shocking, everyone has a bad game but good players work really hard to contribute when things are going bad, didn't see that tonight.