Did you even watch the game?

This is your worst effort yet when Browne wasn't responsible for Porplyzia's injury and the contact.

Just looking at it right now. In extra slow motion too.

You do the crime you pay the time.

It is quite clear that Browne meets the Adelaide with plenty of force a long way off the ball.

This is a classic knee jerk reaction to appease the South Australians who are screaming for blood.......and they won the game!.............

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Porps was running off to get into position after the Crow player had taken the mark in front of Jamo. That was a few metres away from the incident. Go watch the footage because the player going back for the mark and the incident are all in the same frame.

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It is all in the same frame but the ball is trapped under the Adelaide player with Jamison over the top of him. The ball has stopped moving.

The incident happened about three body lengths behind the ball, which is about ten metres.

It's nothing to do with the play. It all happended behind play.

Head high contact, even if it is ACCIDENTAL, that occurs IN PLAY will cop a suspension. Head high conatct, even if it is ACCIDENTAL, that occurs BEHIND PLAY will cop a suspension too, and no doubt a higher penalty because it hasn't occured in the contest for the ball.

3 body lengths is 10 metres?

We have 3.3 metre footballers in our team and yet we still cannot win a ruck contest.

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It looks closer to 10m than three body lengths, but it was quite clearly behind the play given where the ball was and what it was doing at the time.

You can split hairs but it was behind play and looked nasty. If Browne hadn't swung his shoulder around like he did he'd be off scott free right now.

I'm not sure if you are playing with words, verbs, but Porps was leading into space and the Crow player was looking at him to kick it then the incident happen.

Behind play is Hall whacking Staker and Wakelin. Behind the play isn't where you can actually see what the flower is going on.

Now the whole brain bruising thing is interesting.

For someone who was concussed, Porps ability to lift and hold his head up while being stretchered off was remarkable as I am shocked that he wasn't placed in a neck brace following the incident.

His bung shoulder was an accident waiting to happen as he could barely lift that arm up.

We could argue that his shoulder injury caused the severity of his brain bruising.

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OTC should clear it up for all of us.

3 weeks...i am gobsmacked...i had a look when it happened.

It looked as though Browne lifted his shoulder a fraction which can be construed as him trying to protect himself or that he was attempting to cause damage.

But given the circumstances (Brown looked like he was trying to make position rather than going directly for Porps) and it was inconclusive, I would have thought Browne should be given the benefit of the doubt.

Pretty harsh...I certainly didn't think he would have been suspended for that.

OTC (all three) said Brown should get off and Blues will appeal. I agree.

Close. They did say we should appeal and indicated the penalty would be reduced.

Would be surprised if he is cleared. I thought from the start it would be one week. If he hadn't turned his shoulder into him like he did I'd be more confident of him getting off, but given it was behind play they may only drop a match off it.

They would have to be convinced Browne could not possibly have avoided causing the damage he did.

Just for those trying to decide whether this was behind the play or in play I am fairly sure that this no longer has in influence on the outcome. After a Barry Hall(?) incident one or two years ago this category was removed from the points system. This is the official verdict from the MRP and there is no mention of behind the play or in play so this particular argument is irrelevant


Just found this...it is outlining one of the changes made for the 2007 season.

http://209.85.141.104/search?q=cache:5ZRErpl742cJ:mm.afl.com.au/afl/docs/Tribunal-Booklet-07.pdf+afl+match+review+tribunal+behind+play+change&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8

Believe it or not - I thought the umpiring IN THE MATCH against Adelaide was even far worse than this tribunal decision.

If Browne gets suspended, someone out there should insist Moran gets suspended for four weeks too for being a girly man and pretending he got pushed in the back (which resulted in a goal by the way).


Someone should also suspend the umpires for four weeks - cause they were shite.


Accidental and unavoidable collisions are now reportable - the precedent has been set.

Footage anyone?

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anyone with half a brain can see that it was accidental with zero intent and browne flinched / lifted his shoulder / flexed his muscles etc whatever you want to call it to protect himself in an unfortunate collision that couldnt be avoided as two players ran to position for the next part of the play

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Accidental, if Browne gets off verbs should get a three week suspension for being devil's advocate.

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Maybe he should just say that he was drunk and wasn't thinking clearly enough to make the right decision, and that T-Bird arrived later to tap him on the back and see if he was ok?

Oh I forgot about the witness, damn there goes that defense.

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