I have no doubt the Coaches box know who they are so that's all that matters.

Regards Cazzesman

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i dont think those types of players can change their attitude..

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We are scared of a contest. As much as i hate to say this we will have our pants pulled down by the Oies, Tigers and even the Bombers if we decide to play this uncontested keepings of soft football.

We are afraid of the contest we want to play keeping's of. Our first option is to look backwards, handball backwards and handball to a stationary player who them handballs backwards to another stationary player.

Our handballs are never to advantage. When a player is streaming past the ball is delivered behind them making the player break stride.

Last night I thought Bryce Gibbs second half of football was the best i have seen him play. He did some special things and boy is this kid going to be something or what and one day will lead this club

Bentick could use the same kicking coach

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"IF YOU FAIL TO PREPARE, YOU'RE PREPARED TO FAIL" - Mark Spitz

Agree ... that attitude comes when they're playing junior football

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"IF YOU FAIL TO PREPARE, YOU'RE PREPARED TO FAIL" - Mark Spitz

something that i enjoyed that many possibly didnt but thought it showed a sign of our improvement.

end of the second quarter, judd held up the ball and then we proceeded to execute the slowing down the game and then top its off with a goal.

every game i look for little things as i dont rate us as a finals side (our current ladder position is about right IMO)

but it was that passage of play, that stopped geelong who were running rampant kicking around 3 goals in 4 minutes, that impressed me most.

people wonder if we have improved? that passage of play suggests we have.

i dont support doing that all the time, but when i side smashes on 3 goals in 4 minuters, you have to be smart, and take action to stop their momentum

and they did that, and did it well

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Got to love the stare Down by Setanta on Llyod

I have no problem with the uncontested football, the problem i have is we have too many players who can't kick properly and get exposed against top teams. Good teams will force the ball into there hands, Carrots, Carlos, Fisher to start with.

The Hawks cleared all these types out and only selected kids who could kick and had penetration in there kicking. Why did they draft Guerra and Dew? The Bulldogs are even more skilled across the board as are the Cats and Crows and Port and Lions and Swans and Roos.

I think Ratts is onto it judging by his comments:

"Youngsters Dennis Armfield and Steven Browne were both solid in defence for the Blues and earned praise from their coach for their poise under siege.

“They’re two young kids and they didn’t look out of place and we’ll sort of be going with those types to play through that area and in the midfield as well. That was a real plus for us."

http://carltonfc.com.au/tabid/4311/Defa ... wsid=60607

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Just on that passage of play. I have no issues with it either. For the opposition, its simple to counter by manning up...they're committing the bigger sin by dropping numbers back anyway.

The question I have though, is who's doing the booing? Our fans or the Geelong fans? Its hard to tell watching on TV. I imagine its the Geelong fans...if so, boo your team for not manning up.

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

Pros Armfield
Cons we lead the marks kicks and handballs at the half and we should have been down by 50 points
Too much defensive footy

The last ten minutes of the half was an embarrasment

We were shit last week. . We have been ordinary for the last 3 weeks. We must become more direct and take the game on.

We still have too many players who
too slow
are shit kicks
lack footy brains
are too egocentric and dont play team footy
are soft

And thats why we lost
I would expect too lose to a mature team like geelong on the rebound .
But the Blues for all the talk of a young side still need a major clean out at the end of the year and pick kids in the draft that have the attributes above .At least four of them with a prerequisite for kicking skill and tough team orientated footy.

These guys have simply got to go
Wiggins
Russell
Bentick
Stevens

Its a joke that Wiggins still gets a game. No brain at all
Russell is a classic case of having all the physical attributes but no brain. Will not make it in a finals team
Bentick too slow cant kick.Yep I know he was best on the ground last week but he will always be found out in big games.Is only good at getting it out in congested situations. You need more strings to the boe in todays footy
Stevens a couple of times last night Stevens actually went in and got it and i thought here we go. Then we saw him not chasing berating teammates for not chasing( ) giving it up when it was hot.
Stevens can get it and is a superb user of the footy but the time has come to say see you later.
Kouta
Campo
Stevo
Selfish footballers dont belong at our club anymore

We except for a few on this website can see it.Ratten can see it but will he do anything about it.

And the jury is out on these guys
Thornton Too slow and spits it. His kick on the left in the first was shit but his body language was worse afterwards. He sums out the problems we still have at carlton. A lack of pace and an inability to kick with penetration.
Fisher Same as Thornton. He is a limited player. hasnt improved in the areas he has been deficient in for a while. He has to play deep in the forward line so his lack of pace and kicking depth is not exposed.

Carrazzo Has a case of best and fairestitis that inflicted Whitnall.Teague, Kouta, Campo, McKernan.

He needs to be on the ball. he is a better option than Bentick. He is not a defender. He is a ball magnet so play him on the ball. Carrots is not playing with the same intensity as last year. Time to give him a kick up the arse.
Murphy Too slow Kicking has been ordinary since he came to the club. needs to improve
I feel that the last month has been pretty ordinary and with 12 games to go the MC need to make changes and play some players in different positions.

Players who shouldnt be at the club in 09
Russell
Bentick
Saddington
Ackland
Blackwell
Hartlett
Stevens
Bannister
Houlihan
Wiggins
AO"Hailpin

I would be promoting Joseph and Jacobs
and please Wayne Hughes pick the guys who are smart ,tough and can kick. not just flower athletes.

the most disappointing thing for me was a first gamer showed more intensity than some of our regulars and walking to the ground I expected it to happen and that our star recruit who is playing hurt has to do it all.

Message to Ratten.
The season is slipping away again.
No more soft cocks

Play every player on the list and dont fall into the trap of past MC of thinking some guys are guarenteed a game despite half arsed efforts.
Change the positions for some players. Fisher on a wing. Get real.

This isnt an reaction about one game. its a reaction to the last 3 weeks but more importantly the last 6 years.

The MC need to have a real think about who plays, who plays where and who can actually play.

For the best part of the year, we have only dropped the likes of Pfeiffer and Edwards. You cannot acuse Pfeiffer of shirking the issue when it's his turn to put his head over the ball.

Everyone else that has gone out of the team thus far has been due to injury.

Which begs the question, if the coaches know who the soft 5 or 6 are, then why do they continue to get a game week in, week out?

I would have thought Ratts was smarter than that to put his coaching career in the hands of 5 or 6 blokes who continually act as spectators for large parts of each game.

I

Why?

When Geelong are dropping numbers back and have all the momentum, would you rather us kick to a contest and cough the ball up again?

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

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You are joking arnt you. How do you develop a team with that shit. Maybe the last 3 minutes but not the last ten. The team did that because they were scared of making mistakes and that we lack brains to make positon.
Ironically it was a clanger from us that forced us to start playing football not flower kick to kick.
You must be the minority because everyone around us were laughing as well.

There were about 6 mins left on the clock, but that shouldn't determine it anyway and we managed to milk a few minutes off the clock. There are still another 117mins to develop the team.

Its a tactic to slow their momentum and scoring run, force them to man up so that when we do go forward we have a chance of scoring.

You'd still prefer us to kick long to a contest we're outnumbered in and turn it over would you?

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

Nah but he fact is we turned it over anyway ironically to our own advantage.
We did it at the 20 minute mark
we were 19 points down
What about actually backing yourself

Do you think I want to back to Denis Pagan

Given the situation and the time it was a joke.
Dont you want the team to develop Brad.
That will take longer with that possession crap with around 10 minutes left in the half.
And the dact is you have to move the ball forward to score. And directly would help. The balance needs to be found.

The point is that when we were forced to move the ball forward we were playing one out because Geelong had been forced to man up.

Quarters don't go 30mins these days

This is a part of finding a balance. We've been terrible over the past few years at being scored against in red time or halting the momentum of the opposition. When we got scored against, we get scored against heavily. It was a big issue earlier this season as well, but apart from the first quarter against Brisbane and the third quarter yesterday we've managed to be able to control it using 'tempo footy'.

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

Pagan would have instructed the backs to bomb it to a contest on the wing so we could play smash and bash footy. We would have lost the contest on the wing had the ball fly back over our heads for the 4th goal in a 4 minutes to make sure geelong kept momentum.

I liked it. It was ugly and we looked like the villian but the Cats were the ones flooding back.

At worst it was good to see the youngsters follow instructions and execute them well.

Pros:

Gibbs class
Judd is just an amazing player.
Grigg developing quicker then I expected
Bower super backman in the making

Cons:
You can't have Russell, Bentick, Wiggins, Carrots , and Fisher all playing in the same side. All of them have a crack but lack the class to take us to the next level.

Too many blokes don't want to take the hit when its there turn to go.

Kick outs have been a disgrace all year

Not tagging Ablett was a mystery

With Hampson, Cloke and the Kruze we were too top heavy.

We could be 3 years away from playing finals footy

Tagging Ablett makes no difference, the guy is a superstar and Geelong will do everything to free him up.

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Mjonc signing off at 8888

For the record, the 'tempo footy' lasted for 2mins and 4 secs.

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010