For alll we now Ratts could be a hack coach but the perception is he not cause he presents well when on TV. Who gives two hoots about how any coach answers question on a TV

Sponsors care.

Supportors care.

A lot of people care how our club is portrayed in the media.

A coach is appointed to coach. There's the CEO, football operations manager or even the captain who can help sell the club.

So if Leigh Matthews or Paul Roos were shit in the media you would sack them.

It's the biggest load of crap. Everyone journo has taken full advantage of his weakness and ran with it.

Mick Malthouse is such a rude person. How he talks to young journalists learning the trade is an absolute disgrace but yet you don't read article after article or listen talk back about his poor performances.

Matty Knights and Dean Bailey's teams are performing far worse than Mark Harveys right now, because they speak well we can cut them some slack. Some media personalities actually picked Melbourne to do well and not a harsh word has been written or said about them bar shit boardroom politics.

Talk about real issues that matter, not petty bullshit headline grabbing negative crap.

Well seeing as stevens has played under 4 coaches including the very highly rated Mark Williams, I would say that he is in a better position to judge Ratts as a coach than us from over the fence.

Stevo had this to say "I've learnt as much off Ratts in the last 12 months, even when he was an assistant coach, as I have in my whole career"

From the age article http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/p ... ntentSwap2

It is your perception that he is a hack because he isn't following the Melvey school of coaching.

You can't honestly be that simplistic responding to SA Blue's post?

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

If a coach struggles to answer questions that he would know the answers to in an interview then I would find it hard to have confidence in him communicating effectively with players or making match day decisions while under pressure.

Media performance and coaching ability aren't diametrically opposed.

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get over it DUC and move on

What concerned me in one of the Stevens articles was he referred to Ratten as a 'mate'. The best coaches aren't players mates.

It was noticable Ratts looked to harden up his persona On the Couch, as oposed to his interview on Footy Classified early this year. I think Ratten is a quick learner.... and will prove some people on this forum wrong.

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I thought he did very well. 9/10. And when i compare him to July 2007 when he was appointed as caretaker coach, he has improved out of sight.
He is growing in the role, as we all do with time and experience.
He has exceeded my expectations so far and without being bias to a carlton legend, i reckon he will make a very good allround coach. Time will tell, but the signs are there, b/c he is ticking all the boxes.

Of all the coaches i see on tv, i'd rate him in the top 5 in media performance.

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I rate media performance pretty low in assessing a coach . Look at John Kennedy . His main reply to questions from the media was "no comment" . As for Ratts , he's going pretty well right now and is learning each week . Way in front any of the other rookie coaches . For those that aren't happy with him , who would you want to take his place?

That is one of the most naive things you have ever posted.......and thats saying something.

If a Coach gets up on TV and comes across as the Village Idiot are you trying to tell us that has no detrimental effect on the Club, Players, Sponsors, Coterie Groups, Board Members, Supporters etc etc etc.

I know the group I have listed would much preferred to see a performance like Rats put up rather than the one Harvey presented.

Regards Cazzesman

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I couldn't care less.

At the end of the day its football.

Actions speaks louder than words

Next please.

Regardless we wont go 0-11 in the second half, I promise

I remember the Policeman, the Construction Worker, the Bikie and the Indian but who was this bloke again?????

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Stevo also said he wanted to go into battle with Ratts, surely a good thing. Geelong and Hawthorn players seem to get along with their respective coaches, I see Ratt's in that mould.

We had the ultimate non-matey coach in Pagan - that wasnt going so well.

Don't we also have heaps of potential Warnocks? (two, at least ).

Seriously; where does that leave Hampson and Kreuzer? I probably wouldn't have replied if it were not ruckmen we were referring to but ruckmen are the most difficult players to utilise to any great advantage anywhere else on the field. In saying that, why must we stop almost everything when a player becomes available who may help out with a transitory weakness? Today's needs are often tomorrow's strengths and vice-versa.

We should be looking at the most economical way of strengthening our overall list. We should be gaining strengths not concentrating on weaknesses. I'm sick of hearing the word 'need' because it is all so finite. We need to think big and and look at what we might 'want'.

To me the whole Carlton saga is in risk of becoming one long drawn out story of a club chasing its own tail.

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

That's a very 1970's way of looking at it.

Who would you rate as being the best coaches out there at the moment? Tompson, Roo's, Clarkson, and maybe even Worsfold all have a very close relationship that could be seen as mates and yet 3 of them currently and I would suggest all of them soon are premiership coaches.

He changed his name by deed poll to something far more catchy and now heads up the 'Anti WH' fraternity.

Normally you can catch him standing on a milk crate, bible in hand, outside the Melbourne public library most Sunday mornings. He's surrounded by other like minded dribbling souls who stand out from the passing parade due to their flaming torches.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Saw the interview a couple of times and thought he spoke well.

What I would like however, is that when our coach or members of the football department might give us a better idea of certain players and where they see the current list. Not just the typical lines but some in depth comments.

Sometimes its better to have the facts than ongoing rumours.

Sometimes its better to keep your cards close to your chest than let the world know whats going on.

If it means Freo don't get an edge from Ratts sharing knowledge of our players, I'm happy to be kept in the dark as well.

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