Player Contracts

Rambo Stallone · **Posted:** Sat Sep 15, 2007 4:42 am

nytdog wrote:

GWS wrote:

There's a lot of panic about this stuff which seems a little misguided from where I'm sitting.

2005 - $100.8 million ($6,300,000 per club)
2006 - $103.6 million ($6,427,812 per club)
2007 - $111.1 million ($6,943,750 per club)
2008 - $118.9 million ($7,431,250 per club)
2009 - $123.3 million ($7,706,250 per club)
2010 - $127.4 million ($7,962,500 per club)
2011 - $131.6 million ($8,225,000 per club)

Carrazzo and Scotland's contracts are for the next three years. I've never been a fan of ridiculous player contracts (Kouta, Campo, Lance) but keep in mind the fact that the salary cap is up 7.3% this year, 7.0% in 2008, followed by 3.5%, 3.3% and 3.3% increases in the years 2009-2011, resulting in an overall increase in the salary cap of 27% over the five years to 2011.

These two players' contracts will finish at the end of 2010 - a year in which the average player wage (for a 38 player list) will be $209,539 not allowing for veterans list etc.

Next year the average AFL player wage will be $195,559. Considering Carrazzo's just won the B&F, the fact that we have a large number of players on far less than the average due to their youth and the fact that we have to pay 92.5% I'm not sure who else deserves that sort of money more than Carrots.

In Scotland's case $400K seems a touch high but not completely out of the region of what he's worth and what we need to pay to comply with the 92.5% rule. If they come back to about $360-380K (and keep in mind that it appears the club's not happy with $400K) then it's probably about right.

Hopefully we're also looking at incentive based structures as part of these deals to offer the club and the player a little more flexibility.

Top post GWS. I love seeing facts to put things in perspective. I still think Carrots is asking a little much given he has only played one good year, but at least we know its not over the top. I think a base of $250k with incentives if he reaches certain KPIs would be the way to go. ie top 5 B&F = $100k, top 10 (6-10) = $50k. But I guess Icke would have all that covered and we should just let them do their job and stop interfearing and making wild assumptions.

Oh no carrots is asking a little much given he has only played one good year,does that mean he is the new David Teague,Corey Mckernon in a few years,we knew what happen after their best and fairest.

Blue Sombrero · **Posted:** Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:09 am

showbag wrote:

Can you name one Murphy/Gibbs like talent that has been squeezed off a list in their prime due to salary cap constraints???

No.
I don't know why clubs allow good players to be traded as I am not involved in the list management of any club. I DO know, however that we should have offloaded some players in the late 90's for this reason and we didn't. As a result we had to exceed the salary cap and the rest is history.
History has a habit of repeating itself if we don't learn from it.
I am more than happy to be proved wrong on this in a few years but I stand on my premise until so proved. Any counter arguments will have to wait to be proved right also.
Lets all start holding our collective breaths, shall we?

SparkyBlue · **Posted:** Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:02 pm

Mark J wrote:

brycegibbs4 wrote:

SurreyBlue wrote:

Tell you what, if Scotland is seriously asking for that, I for one am more than happy if we worked out a trade. :evil:

WTF would you say that.

Scotland is one of the those players who is better value to us than he is at the trade table. We will only get a second round pick and we will be giving up one of our best and most experienced players.

We have stacks of room in the cap anyway.

So you think a guy who is ONLY worth a 2nd rd pick, is worth 400k per year? What are you on?

Let's pay all our "good" players 400k. What is Stevo worth then? Waite? Fev? Simmo?
So much more i'd like to say

IIRC we were all gloating over the fact that we got Scotland so cheaply. In my opinion he hasn't had a sterling year, but teamed up with Stevens and *hopefully* Judd - and with Gibbsy and Murph coming along I think Scotto slots in nicely... I'm sure if there were TPP restraints we should think twice. I have more of an issue with Carazzo's deal - one good season doesn't make a footballer.

I'd give Scotland $300-350k, and Carazzo $250-300k.

Hey, it's not coming out of MY pocket!

*unless you take the 'members pay their wages' line*

bluesy909 · **Joined:** Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:45 pm **Posts:** 19

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This thread has gotten way off line due to totally incorrect statements on Page 1.

Carrots has signed a 2 year deal and the figure is NOT $350K per year.

With good performances again next year such as playing 20+ games and finishing high in the B&F, the total payments, including bonus', can reach the high $200's.

Contrary to the impression given by some posters, he and his manager did not make any outlandish demands and to suggest so, does this Carlton boy a great disservice.

I wish posters would get their facts right or at least not pretend to know the facts when they do not.!!
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camel · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:47 pm

bluesy909 wrote:

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This thread has gotten way off line due to totally incorrect statements on Page 1.

Carrots has signed a 2 year deal and the figure is NOT $350K per year.

With good performances again next year such as playing 20+ games and finishing high in the B&F, the total payments, including bonus', can reach the high $200's.

Contrary to the impression given by some posters, he and his manager did not make any outlandish demands and to suggest so, does this Carlton boy a great disservice.

I wish posters would get their facts right or at least not pretend to know the facts when they do not.!!
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Good news if true. What makes your last sentence any more credible than the first couple of posts?

wasthesonofapreacherman · **Posted:** Mon Sep 17, 2007 12:54 pm

Hi Bluesy909,

I get the impression based on your posts that you're either Carrots himself or VERY close to him...either way WELCOME! Thanks for clearing up the incorrect information. You're/you're mate's a legend, and a top bloke to boot!

Good to have you on board mate.

Cheers.

bluesy909 · **Joined:** Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:45 pm **Posts:** 19

Thanks, Was.........

Happy to set the record straight.

Just hate to see blatant misinformation.

Fortunately I am close to a number of players and player managers. And most are not 'money-grabers', especially not Carrots.
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4thchicken · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:44 am **Posts:** 3136

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/ ... 42,00.html

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Koutoufides also scoffed at claims the Blues are cashed up following his retirement and Matthew Lappin's departure, saying he was on the minimum wage in his last season.

I wonder whether that would have changed many peoples opinions of kouta's performance this year.

Jarusa · **Joined:** Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:00 am **Posts:** 23123

4thchicken wrote:

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22436094%255E19742,00.html

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Koutoufides also scoffed at claims the Blues are cashed up following his retirement and Matthew Lappin's departure, saying he was on the minimum wage in his last season.

I wonder whether that would have changed many peoples opinions of kouta's performance this year.

The reports were (for what they are worth) that Kouta was on $200,000 last year.

That may be a Kouta Base payment? :lol:

camel · **Posted:** Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:36 am

bluesy909 wrote:

Fortunately I am close to a number of players and player managers. And most are not 'money-grabers', especially not Carrots.

Thanks for the insight, I had a feeling this was the case, but as you've pointed out, it's good to hear these things from the horse's mouth.

DOA · **Joined:** Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:04 pm **Posts:** 395

bluesy909 wrote:

Thanks, Was.........

Happy to set the record straight.

Just hate to see blatant misinformation.

Fortunately I am close to a number of players and player managers. And most are not 'money-grabers', especially not Carrots.
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Welcome,enjoy the TC ride.

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