Agree.


So did a certain Irishman, who was sentenced to hang by one of the founders of our great club

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

"Talkin' about my de - generation."

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1945 - End of round 3 Carlton was last.

Last round Carlton made the final four for the first time.

Eventual premiers.

That's what I'm talking about!

Perhaps it's looks like it's degenerating at the same rate as it was 12 months ago, not that it look exactly the same. He's 12 months older thus entropy dictates that it must have degenerated to some extent.

Is it at all possible that Lance's future depends on Brendan Fevola?

I don't think we will benefit in retaining both and the Blues are better if one goes. I believe Fev will now stay (rumours notwithstanding) and this makes it hard for Lance.

You can't fit Hartlett, Fisher, Kennedy, Edwards (?) etc into the the forward line if it is run by Fev and Lance. Retain one, not both. If Fev goes, keep Lance on strict conditions for one year. Otherwise, no guarantees.

Not much in the body changes at the same gradual rate. It can de-generate alot, plateau and then de-generate all of a sudden alot further again and come on very quickly.

As a financial member, it's kind of insulting the way this saga is continuing on. For goodness sakes will they end this already

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There's so much I could say...

I'm so confused

What's you being a financial member got to do with anything? You pay a couple of hundred dollars a year. This is a guy's life and livelihood - a guy that has represented the club we love with distinction. Why don't we be patient and let the club make an informed decision and not rush into anything. I've never seen so many Carlton supporters eat their own. Yes Lance is getting close to the end, but as supporters, i think we can handle it with some more respect and class. Let's not forget, all we are are supporters and members. The players are the ones that do all the hard work and deserve our respect.

A guy thats made heaps more money than your average 28 year old and shuld be able to be smart enough to build a career outside of football.

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Unfit to play in 2007, can't kick over a jam tin. Lance should leave on a high knowing his knee successfully resulted in us gaining Pick 1, and the leverage for Judd with Pick 3. Lance will go down as the man who won us Premiership 17 with his inaccuracy against Melbourne

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Yup and he has two destroyed knees to show for it. The money these guys make for putting their bodies through the pain they go through isn't that much. How much would you accept to have a hip replacement before your 40th birthday? I know plenty of office workers that have much more money than these guys with very little in give up in return. A football career is short. They need to make their money while they can, because after football most are starting fresh. The money argument is so lame. If you could do what they are doing you would want to extend your career as long as possible also. Especially when you honestly believe you can still offer something to the club you love like I'm sure Lance does. I'm not saying he should and will stay on, but the low blows are unnecessary. It's so lame. These guys owe you and me nothing.

Your one out of 35,000. you dont speak for the rest of the other financial members. You get to vote at the election nothing more nothing less

Oh, no they don't. They owe me plenty.

I'm the one who pays $1200 a year for membership for my family; I'm the one who pays $50 every week for a few pies, some chips and some coffee; I'm the one who pays over $100 a month for Foxtel; I'm the one who keeps Channel 7 and 10 going; I'm the one who buys flower scarves and hats and tops and jackets that cost about 800% of what they're worth!!!!!!!!

Without me, these (very talented) twenty-somethings don't get to buy their houses in Toorak or their Souvlaki King franchises or their fancy cars or their new restaurants in South Yarra.

Now I don't begrudge them all of this. Good luck to them. Really!!! Good on them!!! But don't tell me they owe me nothing.

Read back over why I made the comment. A "supporter" says he's "insulted" because a 200 game player is fighting for his career and the club is waiting to gather all the facts before it makes its decision.
A player like Lance owes us nothing at this point. The season is over and he is uncotracted. If he choses to fight for his career we have no right to be insulted.

We pay to watch "games" of football. All it is to you and me is entertainment. It doesn't provide us with food, shelter or clothes. It's not our livelihood. Let's put it into perspective. You, like me, sit there and observe and feel emotions from it. That's it. They're the ones putting the hard work in and risking serious injury to provide us with a good (or bad) feeling. If we enjoy the game anymore, it's easy, we stop going.

It's so easy to sit back behind a keyboard and ridicule players that have given a lot to us. It just saddens me seeing supporters flip flop when things aren't going great and turn on their own.

This may sound "cruel" but I don't want Lance at the club next year.


He is a liability and if you go through the tapes of the matches from last year - the year he won??? the best and fairest, you will see how opposing teams used him as the weakness to exploit.


Glen Archer has had a wonderful career, but Geelong last week played through him to score goals. Archer will be remembered as a champion but he is now too old, too slow and no upside.



It isn't a French picnic out there - it is survival of the fittest. And Carlton are playing the game like a boys club if they keep Whitnall.



If Lance is there next year taking up a spot of a player like Ryan Jackson - who I admire greatly - then I cannot in turn buy a membership ticket. Big deal NY dog and others will say... so what... stick by your club at all times... yes, i will continue to support Carlton but I don't want to put money towards something that isn't run with the team in mind - The survival and betterment of the team is all that counts at Geelong, a Port Adelaide or a West Coast.

1979, I don't have any problems with supporters not wanting Whitnall to be recontracted next year. It's your opinion and you have every right to it and to express it. I might even agree with it. But its the disrespectful and rude comments directed at the players that saddens me. Someone who has given 10 years of service to the club doesn't deserve that. Especially not by us supporters - who don't play and put our own sweat into the club. Just because we pay a few dollars a year doesn't give us that right. I didn't think Carlton supporters were the type to eat their own, just because they are getting near the end. The only analogy I can draw is how you treat your grand parents when they get older and become less coherent and more difficult to deal with. I'm sure you still respect them and don't turn on them. Comments like "sack the bogan" make me sick. I know my comments aren't going to be popular, because its much easier to criticise and let fly flipant comments than it is to maintain class and present a point of view without slurs.

Mentoring role? Pffft! Sack the newly appointed dietician - we all want the young lads to throw on a couple over the summer.

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Ive said for a while now that Lance will not be a part of the next Carlton team that makes the finals.

It is just a matter of whether he goes now, or else hangs on for maybe another year.

As cruel to Lance as as this might sound, going now would mean that there is a spot for another young player to develop and maybe add to our future team depth, but staying on would deny us this.


But hard choices might have to be made.

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My Blue Heaven

Mr Blueman, I'm with you...can you please look into that crystal ball and impart some news for me? Basically everything you've said has been on the money, and even if you risk one time being wrong you've got an impeccable track record thus far!

So???? What's news??? PLEASE!

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And then there's the allegation that Kouta was squeezed out .. if they want to let champions like that go, but keep hold of former-champions with dodgy futures, they need their heads read

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[Sam Jacobs] looks like a 7' Lance Whitnall, and [Mitch Robinson] looks like a 4' Lance Whitnall
(The SEN team during the Carlton v Cats 2009 pre-season match)