More power to em

Absolutely true Brad, but the Captain should at least have that quality to be amongst those who can promote and discuss the club in the competitive media and sponsorship market.

We all know Murph is the heir apparent, but the next 2 years will build the foundation for our on and off field strength in the next 20 years. Playing well will help, but let's face - nobody expects us to set the world on fire for a few more years yet.

So let's channel our efforts into promoting the future through media and sponsorship, and the captain can be a great person to bridge the gap between the on and off field aspects of the club. I'm not super confident Lance can do that, but I'll get behind his efforts to do so.

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Good question bw.

I don't know the opinion of the 44 players. I'm reading the general consensus.

Just recently Simmo stated in Hobart that he would prefer Lance; Lappin came out of left field and suggested it would be daring to give it to Murphy; all other interviews (public) with our players have suggested a 2-3 horse race (3 when Lappin's name came up...as suggested by Waite).

Perhaps I should have stated that "It seems that the players respect...." rather than write " Lance does have the respect..."

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Now hopefully they will make some youngsters VC's to plan for the succession in a couple of years and not just put the also rans in those positions.

Murphy, Simpson, Walker or the like for VC's

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Although one could hope for a big year, i hope it isn't a "weighty" year for a bloke who is playing in the most athletic competition in the world, but would trouble to be fit enough for a second division soccer comp. in the uk.

How could he have not gotten on with Denis and still "won" the best and fairest last year?

To win that award after his second half of season(or even first half) and not been given some extra votes to get him over the line is an impossibility.

Does anyone know how many votes Lance got for the Hawthorn /melbourne or Essendon* games in the second round?


Me thinks Fev. is "high maintenance" so he had to earn the votes first.

Fair point - let's give him a go.

But you would agree that Fevola and Stevens are better players, would you not?

And generally you give the captaincy to better players unless they are someone like a Brett Kirk - who leads by example with his efforts on the field.

I don't know exactly what Simmo said- not sure it was that he'd prefer Lance or that he thought he was likely to get it. There aren't too many options. Lappin has come out twice and both times failed to mention Lance. I've been told that most of the more senior players don't respect Lance. We'll see how they respond if this is true.

2-3 Year appointment? I was thinking a 2-3 kilo appointment. Once Krispy Kreme's within a stone's throw of Thomastown's TAB, he'll be front page of the Sun running through makeshift forests pulling car tires with his dad, or riding "95km's a day" on his recumbent bike (set to Everest Descent).

Admittedly he's JUST had a good season, but rewarding for longterm mediocrity on an elite athlete that has visibly more tone on his Milky Bars than his 2% fat-free T-Subs, typifies the brain capacity of our Pornstarred Coach, DP.

I'm beginning to think Hollywood 43 is in fact Lance himself. The correlation between the Avatar and the Thomastown Tavern is uncanny.

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Bad choice

should have been traded 3,2,1 years ago

has no real position in the team and should be marginalised from key positions

can't speak in public

not exactly a role model for taking care of his body

lost badly as many contests as he won last year... and absurd B&F.... sad state when a bloke who often had no opponent wins the B&F ...

a very bad choice but the obvious one given our complete lack of insight and footy smarts as a club

shoulda been Fev.... or at worst Stevens.

Whitnall will have to be very smart to even keep is place in the 18, I think... especially if the club are biting the bullet with Waite, O'hAilpin and Kennedy in KPPs (as they should)

but... errrr... yeah..... GO BLUES!

if murphy has a blinder I wouldn't be surprised to see him captain in 2008.

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Terrible choice as I heard from a reliable source that Stevo had a much higher midi-chlorian count.

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Hey Tap, Lance would have been relying on the entire match committee for his votes, not just Denis.

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Congrats Red. Here's to you marshalling the troops off the field as well as you do on it.

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Not my first choice....but we must get behind the big man...However in saying that, i would feel a lot more comfortable if the club came out and said it was simply a 1 year appointment and that we will assess this situation at seasons end. Then i will know Murph doesn't have to wait until Lance retires to get the captaincy. My choice i goto say is Stevo. But if this is the way its goto be its the way its goto be.

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Blueworld:



FYI Andrewwalkersgirl refers to Simmo's comment in her thread re: Blues Hobart visit.

So you say 'most' of the 'more senior guys' don't respect Lance.

Lets look at who these "More senior Players" consist of (age in 2007):

1. 33 Kouta.........? relinqished captaincy for Lance or Stevo to take over (retires end 2007).
2. 31 Lappin.........backs Murphy (might not be playing in 2008)
3. 28 Whitnall.......backs Whitnall
4. 27 Saddo.........? (might not be on the list in 2008)
5. 27 Stevens.......backs Stevens
6. 27 Scotland......?
7. 26 Teague........? wont be on the list in 2008
8. 26 Fevola.........?
9. 25 McLaren......? wont be on the list in 2008
10.25 Ackland......? been here only 5 mins

So the ones that may not respect Lance may include:

Kouta (I doubt it), Lappin, Saddo (I doubt it), Stevens, Scotland, Teague, Fevola, McLaren and Ackland (I doubt it).....I think "Don't respect" fullstop is a bit harsh, but could be true...they're only human afterall.

Even if we consider 25 yo as more senior (at Carlton anyway), that's only 10 players of 44, and of those 10, only 5 are highly likely to be at Carlton in 2008 and continue to play for this young team in 2008, and of those 5 we know Whitnall backs Whitnall publicly. Do the other 5 matter when there's 44 players on the list?...and, 3 of those 5 wont even get to play/ support him in the seniors?

I don't think that we need to be too concerned if
...not at Carlton anyway, because there's not that many of them, and if they don't support him and play for him, they have to prove at the very least that they're playing for the Carlton jumper and must perform as professionals are expected to perform, or they can just piss off!

IMO I've been through enough crap in the last 5 years, and I don't have to put up with anymore of this childish attitude. I'm backing Pratt and his call for us to be united in the cause. This Club has turned its fortunes around and we're heading upwards; no matter what!

On the flipside, does the respect issue also apply to Stevens?

Doesn't really matter when we're talking about 4-5 players in the big scheme of things.

What we do know is we don't have an absolute standout like a Voss or a Hird on our list (yet) for everyone to agree with. But we'll be OK.

Go Blues!

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