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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 11:29 pm 
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Hornet wrote:
Things I've leaned this page...

MLG is Don Colyoni
Ockham's Razor is Karen Moregold
Synbad is a playing card


MLG is more Luca Brasi.

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 10:06 am 
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Ockham's Razor wrote:
Synbad wrote:
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Give me Taurus


The stalwarts,

The heart and soul of our successful era,

They know you by your nom de plume - "Tzoker"

You should be proud, they don't really know you, but hey they recognise you, The Joker, The Funny Boy.

Well done, keep it up and you never know what might happen next. Tzoker.

Hanging out at the bowling greens are we?

No love for the kiddies?


They are the people you'd call your mates, your insiders at the club, but they think you're The Joker, The Funny boy.

So much time, so little to do.......The Joker.


Who are these people, old stalwarts?

They don't speak English well?
Do they pull the strings?
Are they men of influence?
If not, how do they get their information to know if Tsoker is right or wrong?

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 10:19 am 
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I have many mates around the club. Or people I know..... Some like me.. Some don't!
I'm not trying to win mr congeniality contests.
Im purely here to share my observations with those that don't have the same opportunity to analyse this club in the way it conducts itself.
I might get it wrong at times Mr astrologist.. But I reckon I'm closer to the pin about a whole range of things than most.

I don't hide as an anonymouse OR.
I don't mind being the tzoker. It means I know what im talking about... Because so far stalwarts of the club have let this club down...
You disagree?

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 10:31 am 
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I wish I had some mates.

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 10:44 am 
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You can hang with the astrologer and jim

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 11:04 am 
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I get him MM saying at beginning of season that he can't see where we are going to lose. When you are watching a group of guys having a go in preseason with a gameplay you think works, I reckon many coaches will feel that way.
That he got it so wrong on both our players preparedness to work and the game plan, is the big worry (on field).

I agree with Synners (and Caro, btw) that there are bigger problems off field.
We have made many admin changes and too early to tell if these are good or bad. However, given the board's track record, I don't have a lot of confidence - most of these admin changes ride on the back of Triggs.
And speaking of the Board's track record.... That is the other missing piece. Yet to be addressed.


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 11:13 am 
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I get him MM saying at beginning of season that he can't see where we are going to lose. When you are watching a group of guys having a go in preseason with a gameplay you think works, I reckon many coaches will feel that way.
That he got it so wrong on both our players preparedness to work and the game plan, is the big worry (on field).

I agree with Synners (and Caro, btw) that there are bigger problems off field.
We have made many admin changes and too early to tell if these are good or bad. However, given the board's track record, I don't have a lot of confidence - most of these admin changes ride on the back of Triggs.
And speaking of the Board's track record.... That is the other missing piece. Yet to be addressed.


How can MM get it so wrong.

If he can't see them losing a game before the season starts it implies he thinks he has the cattle to win. When he says after each loss the opposition were a better team or we couldn't compete with class the opponents have, that is not an off field issue.

MM got it wrong. Big time. IMO.

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 11:43 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
17th Premiership wrote:
I get him MM saying at beginning of season that he can't see where we are going to lose. When you are watching a group of guys having a go in preseason with a gameplay you think works, I reckon many coaches will feel that way.
That he got it so wrong on both our players preparedness to work and the game plan, is the big worry (on field).

I agree with Synners (and Caro, btw) that there are bigger problems off field.
We have made many admin changes and too early to tell if these are good or bad. However, given the board's track record, I don't have a lot of confidence - most of these admin changes ride on the back of Triggs.
And speaking of the Board's track record.... That is the other missing piece. Yet to be addressed.


How can MM get it so wrong.

If he can't see them losing a game before the season starts it implies he thinks he has the cattle to win. When he says after each loss the opposition were a better team or we couldn't compete with class the opponents have, that is not an off field issue.

MM got it wrong. Big time. IMO.


Agree. Which (if the performances weren't indication enough) is the sign he's past it.

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 11:55 am 
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Wait, so everyone thinks that Malthouse was being deadly serious when he said he couldn't see them losing a game?

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 12:00 pm 
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MM,is finished as a coach with us and in the in the AFL.If he doesnt get his own way he sooks I wish he would go gracefully but that is not his style ( ala Collingwood).He may not be the only problem we have but boy o boy he doesnt help Please Carlton get rid of him now,the sad part is I was rapt when he came to the Blues as coach.He is PAGAN MARK 2.As a club we never learn from our mistakes


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 12:02 pm 
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Wojee wrote:
Wait, so everyone thinks that Malthouse was being deadly serious when he said he couldn't see them losing a game?

Apparently :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 12:04 pm 
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Wojee wrote:
Wait, so everyone thinks that Malthouse was being deadly serious when he said he couldn't see them losing a game?



It's an absolute joke that this is being used against MM. He said it in jest and said so in numerous interviews. (Not that I am excusing MM for other issues) You can take anything out of context and it is being done all the time - especially by HS and SEN. People also forget that the club said last year that we are turning the list over - we actually made about 20 changes = 50% of the list over the last 2 preseasons.

If you read the interview fat Robbo had with the Judge you can see that the whole trading Murph thing is exactly the same thing.

When a club is in trouble like we are the media is having a field day and will stoke the fire with everything they have. Its not many years ago that they did the same thing to Port.

While the situation is very troubling etc. I do not believe anything I read or hear in the media.

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 12:06 pm 
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Wojee wrote:
Wait, so everyone thinks that Malthouse was being deadly serious when he said he couldn't see them losing a game?


I don't think anyone does.

.....but I certainly felt it was said to convey a sense of optimism towards the upcoming season.

A bit like his 11.00 oclock on the premiership clock bullshit in 2014 and his " the list looks great to me" crap in 2013.

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 12:10 pm 
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That's all marketing.
Problem with them telling us that kind of thing is they were misrepresenting the product so as to sell memberships.
Waited till round two to talk about a rebuild.
That's ' A Current Affair' worthy right there.
The problem then moves onto the 'sixty six' game rebuild which doesn't express where exactly they think we will be keeping the whole thing in a perpetual ambiguous state..
Just say "rebuilding" without a time frame idiot president. Or tell us what 66 means exactly and what the exit strategy is for the rebuild with targets etc...
The truth is they have no clue!
So they resort to the kind of rubbish they're spruiking.

This is not a president or a club at the top of their game..
They're merely kicking the can down the road hoping for something to happen.
There is no plan.. Just like they got Rogers to leave but he isn't replaced. Now people might think no great loss.
But they haven't restructured the recruiting department.
And even though they are targeting people like kinnear beatson .. They are waiting for him or somebody else to say yes...
It all seems so muddled.. And confused..
They are saving money on sacking people during what they have already announced as a crucial moment in the clubs history aka the sixty six game rebuild.

They're just saving money because they're losing money which is shrinking our prowess going forward.
This is more time wasted...
But time seems to have no value at this place

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 12:15 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
17th Premiership wrote:
I get him MM saying at beginning of season that he can't see where we are going to lose. When you are watching a group of guys having a go in preseason with a gameplay you think works, I reckon many coaches will feel that way.
That he got it so wrong on both our players preparedness to work and the game plan, is the big worry (on field).

I agree with Synners (and Caro, btw) that there are bigger problems off field.
We have made many admin changes and too early to tell if these are good or bad. However, given the board's track record, I don't have a lot of confidence - most of these admin changes ride on the back of Triggs.
And speaking of the Board's track record.... That is the other missing piece. Yet to be addressed.


How can MM get it so wrong.

If he can't see them losing a game before the season starts it implies he thinks he has the cattle to win. When he says after each loss the opposition were a better team or we couldn't compete with class the opponents have, that is not an off field issue.

MM got it wrong. Big time. IMO.


MM may also have been putting a positive spin to get the players believing


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 12:16 pm 
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17th Premiership wrote:
I get him MM saying at beginning of season that he can't see where we are going to lose. When you are watching a group of guys having a go in preseason with a gameplay you think works, I reckon many coaches will feel that way.
That he got it so wrong on both our players preparedness to work and the game plan, is the big worry (on field).

I agree with Synners (and Caro, btw) that there are bigger problems off field.
We have made many admin changes and too early to tell if these are good or bad. However, given the board's track record, I don't have a lot of confidence - most of these admin changes ride on the back of Triggs.
And speaking of the Board's track record.... That is the other missing piece. Yet to be addressed.


good post


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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 12:26 pm 
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Of course there's a marketing element to it.

That's expected.

But MM is now saying he didn't realize it's a re-build, that's bulldust. He's been bagging the list since 1/2 way through his first season. Remember, he had to "throw out the game plan " because the list wasn't up to it. Last year was about "getting new players in" and turning over the list.

This year (like last) he laments the lack of depth in the list constantly.

He say's no rebuild in 2013 (or was it 2014) but everything he's done in getting rid of players, turning over the list and brining in his "type" of player , screams re-build.


The club is [REDACTED], but this guy talks shit for a living.

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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 12:31 pm 
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mikkey wrote:
Wojee wrote:
Wait, so everyone thinks that Malthouse was being deadly serious when he said he couldn't see them losing a game?



It's an absolute joke that this is being used against MM. He said it in jest and said so in numerous interviews. (Not that I am excusing MM for other issues) You can take anything out of context and it is being done all the time - especially by HS and SEN. People also forget that the club said last year that we are turning the list over - we actually made about 20 changes = 50% of the list over the last 2 preseasons.

If you read the interview fat Robbo had with the Judge you can see that the whole trading Murph thing is exactly the same thing.

When a club is in trouble like we are the media is having a field day and will stoke the fire with everything they have. Its not many years ago that they did the same thing to Port.

While the situation is very troubling etc. I do not believe anything I read or hear in the media.


Agree. :thumbsup:

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http://www.sen.com.au/news/05-15/maltho ... day-denham

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I know there are bigger problems than Mick at the club, but surely he has to go now.

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