Talking Carlton Index Lochie O'Brien Kerryn Harrington Lochie O'Brien Kerryn Harrington CFC Home CFC Membership CFC Shop CFC Fixture Blueseum
It is currently Wed Jun 18, 2025 7:26 am

All times are UTC + 10 hours




Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 671 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 3:32 pm 
Offline
John Nicholls

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:52 am
Posts: 9105
Location: Nth Fitzroy
SurreyBlue wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
With Weiters, Young & McLovin in defence and Harry and TDK up forward I'd prefer to see Cincotta in instead of Kemp, he offers more around the ground and stands up when required IMO, plus he adds more speed to an already slow team.


Can't agree. Kemp can stretch the Brisbane backline and is versatile and mobile.
What we need is for Motlop and Durdin to get their hands dirty!!!


I hope we play in a way that we dont need to stretch the Bears defence. Not back 6 defense anyway. I want us to stretch their team defense. Pressure first. Cause turnovers and get after moving the ball forward as a group. Short passes on angles. Ball not stopping. The inside 50 marks will take care of themselves. The lowering of the eyes. The spread of markers. Going inside 50 fast with long kicks to isolated 1 on 1's is not going to win us the game.
We need to play the modern way.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 3:43 pm 
Offline
Harry Vallence

Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:50 am
Posts: 1232
Gov Harry and Williams have all played loads of footy this year and only missed one or two games recently. They are fine.

Everyone says doc has been flying. Take a punt.

The maybes are Cerra and TDK.

I think Cincotta is v unlucky and L Young very lucky.

_________________
Go Blues


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 4:33 pm 
Offline
Craig Bradley

Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:36 am
Posts: 6408
Some strange selections this week
You can’t comment till after the game


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 5:07 pm 
Offline
Harry Vallence
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:04 pm
Posts: 1201
Location: Brisbane
CK95 wrote:
Can it be that there's some sort of error?
Hard to stop naming Adam Cerra
Is it really the end, not some crazy dream?


If we lose and the priest comes to read me the last rites
Ill Take a look through this thread for the last fights
About a team selection that has gone very wrong for me


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 5:14 pm 
Offline
Bruce Doull
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:06 pm
Posts: 35888
Location: Half back flank
:clap:

Pretty sure I could hear supporters from Alberton last night asking, Tell me why I have to be, Port Power slave.......

_________________
#DonTheStash


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 7:01 pm 
Online
Stephen Kernahan
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:17 am
Posts: 18654
Location: threeohfivethree
keogh wrote:
Some strange selections this week
You can’t comment till after the game


It’s like with drafting and trades.

Hindsight is definitely helpful.

_________________
“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 7:15 pm 
Offline
Stephen Kernahan
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:53 am
Posts: 17494
Location: Left Cuckistan
GWS wrote:
keogh wrote:
Some strange selections this week
You can’t comment till after the game


It’s like with drafting and trades.

Hindsight is definitely helpful.

Giggle

_________________
The only way for some people to understand is for them to be on the receiving end

Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 7:38 pm 
Offline
Ken Hunter
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:32 am
Posts: 10582
keogh wrote:
Some strange selections this week
You can’t comment till after the game


Yes you can.
I like the team. We need to play with desperation, pressure and our contested way.
Just need to trust the MC.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 7:53 pm 
Offline
Craig Bradley
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:42 pm
Posts: 7208
SurreyBlue wrote:
keogh wrote:
Some strange selections this week
You can’t comment till after the game


Yes you can.
I like the team. We need to play with desperation, pressure and our contested way.
Just need to trust the MC.



the conjecture and talk in here is all around us not picking the best team conducive to the pressure & desperation you speak of. those two elements need a little bit of pace and speed to achieve. not lumbering, slow play down the wings, and long bombs.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 8:41 pm 
Offline
Mike Fitzpatrick

Joined: Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:30 pm
Posts: 4183
We do look slow on paper unless there are some late outs


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 8:55 pm 
Online
Stephen Kernahan

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am
Posts: 18026
Forget selection. There's enough talent in the team. The key will be pressure. If we play 4 quarters of high pressure, unrelenting football, we'll be every chance to win. Champion Data put out some info earlier this week that if Brisbanes opponents bring higher than 180 pressure, Brisbane have won 4 from 10 games.
We're the best pressure team when the mindset if correct. That's what it comes down to. Can our selected players bring 4 quarters of the pressure required. No lapses.

(straight kicking in front of goal would be a bonus as well) :grin:

_________________
Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:01 pm 
Offline
John Nicholls

Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:18 pm
Posts: 9814
Location: Australia
Sustained pressure requires fit players. So we’re back to selection.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:06 pm 
Offline
Ken Hunter
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:32 am
Posts: 10582
Blue Vain wrote:
Forget selection. There's enough talent in the team. The key will be pressure. If we play 4 quarters of high pressure, unrelenting football, we'll be every chance to win. Champion Data put out some info earlier this week that if Brisbanes opponents bring higher than 180 pressure, Brisbane have won 4 from 10 games.
We're the best pressure team when the mindset if correct. That's what it comes down to. Can our selected players bring 4 quarters of the pressure required. No lapses.

(straight kicking in front of goal would be a bonus as well) :grin:


Exactly. :thumbsup:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:20 pm 
Offline
Rod Ashman
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:05 pm
Posts: 2715
Braithy wrote:
lol ... this is nowhere near a 50-50 game, old mate. take the blue blinkers off and take a deep breath. i think if we brought in 3 or 4 at most players and went with a couple of kids that never put a foot wrong in the final rounds, and made ourselves as mobile as humanly possible, we would have been a chance.

don't laugh at st kilda & their form. they had a top 4 profile in the final 4 weeks of the season, and killed the cats and beat the swans. and we took them to within 12 seconds of beating them - and we did it with pressure and turnover. which incidentally has been the lions kryptonite all season long

the dour possession, slow build up to contests, long bombs onto forward's heads doesn't work, and doesn't win games. cats showed what does, hard running both ways, speed and pressure on the ball and clever forward entries into space.

maybe youth was the wrong word for the cats. mannagh, lawson humpheries, max holmes, Gryan Miers, Brad Close etc

no hawkins, guthrie, de koning, tom stewart and rohan.

of them, hawkins, guthrie and sam could have all played, and if it was a prelim or gf they coulda risked tom stewart as well. but they had faith in their system and the players coming in to play their system, run hard both ways and tackle all night long.

... meanwhile at carlton, it's bring in 6 changes of varying underdone players to go with durdin and his dislocated shoulder and cross your fingers and shut your eyes and hope for the best.


pittonet and tdk are all out rucks; and other than the one game Vs the giants where tdk kicked a few (by clunking a few lucky marks that landed on his head) in all the other games he's shown he has little forward craft and isn't a forward.

H and tdk and kemp will apply very little ground ball pressure and turnover, and motlop and durdin aren't that much better in that department. lord have mercy, durdin is one bump from a dislocation and having his night ended.

according to everyone we're making up the numbers, and other than you, i haven't met anyone who thinks we're a show with this selected team. if we lose, i'd have rather gone down swinging with fit players under no injury clouds, applying pressure until the final whistle like we did against the saints.

instead, we're staring down a blowout of hawks magnitude, if one or two go down before HT.

i just wanted us to go into the game with less risk on big names with injury clouds, back our system and swarm & hunt.


a question for you - the cats backed their system and allowed underdone players another week. does voss and Co bringing in the big guns who may or may not finish the game, mean they don't have the same faith in their very own system? bcos that's how these selections read to me.



Didn't we berat the cats not that long ago?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:26 pm 
Online
Stephen Kernahan

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am
Posts: 18026
sinbagger wrote:
Sustained pressure requires fit players. So we’re back to selection.


I disagree. It comes down to mindset. Fitness means jack shit if you don't have the hunger. Jaxon Binns could probably outrun any player in our team but he doesn't have the physical intent at the moment. I'd take any of the recent selections over him easily.

_________________
Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:45 pm 
Offline
Harry Vallence

Joined: Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:59 pm
Posts: 1136
DesEnglish wrote:
I have no inside word nor have I even read it as a rumour, but I do wonder if this talk about Doc might be because he’s going to pull the pin.

3 knee recos, 2 cancer battles….maybe his body has had enough.


Doc and other players (Weiters) have been talking about his arc coming close to the end. but could just mean his second last season. who knows?


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:48 pm 
Offline
John Nicholls

Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:18 pm
Posts: 9814
Location: Australia
Blue Vain wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Sustained pressure requires fit players. So we’re back to selection.


I disagree. It comes down to mindset. Fitness means jack shit if you don't have the hunger. Jaxon Binns could probably outrun any player in our team but he doesn't have the physical intent at the moment. I'd take any of the recent selections over him easily.


You sound confused, you say only mindset is import, then you say even though Binns has the right mindset but you wouldn’t pick him due to physicality?

Is it fitness, physicality or mindset?

Lord has the right mindset, so why aren’t we selecting him? He’s fit too.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:53 pm 
Offline
John Nicholls

Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:18 pm
Posts: 9814
Location: Australia
Watching tonight’s game, one things we must do apart from pressure is lower the eyes when entering the fwd 50


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 10:05 pm 
Online
Stephen Kernahan

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am
Posts: 18026
sinbagger wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Sustained pressure requires fit players. So we’re back to selection.


I disagree. It comes down to mindset. Fitness means jack shit if you don't have the hunger. Jaxon Binns could probably outrun any player in our team but he doesn't have the physical intent at the moment. I'd take any of the recent selections over him easily.


You sound confused, you say only mindset is import, then you say even though Binns has the right mindset but you wouldn’t pick him due to physicality?


Where did I say Binns has the right mindset in my post?

_________________
Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 10:31 pm 
Offline
John Nicholls

Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:18 pm
Posts: 9814
Location: Australia
Blue Vain wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Sustained pressure requires fit players. So we’re back to selection.


I disagree. It comes down to mindset. Fitness means jack shit if you don't have the hunger. Jaxon Binns could probably outrun any player in our team but he doesn't have the physical intent at the moment. I'd take any of the recent selections over him easily.


You sound confused, you say only mindset is import, then you say even though Binns has the right mindset but you wouldn’t pick him due to physicality?


Did I say Binns has the right mindset in my post? Where exactly?


Not really sure what you meant, you started out talking out mindset, then wandered over to endurance running, then ended up with physical intent.

Not sure what that’s got to do with picking physically fit (ie that have sufficiently recovered from injury) players.

Edit: fwiw I don’t think Binns is ready for finals yet either, but I think Lord and Cincotta are.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 671 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34  Next

All times are UTC + 10 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 48 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group