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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:23 pm 
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Craig Bradley

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What today’s shite means is
Let’s stick fat
Let’s keep it together and not make panic abrupt decisions
Interpretation
Let’s take no ownership on who is at fault
It’s called brain washing
Smells like the supporters being treated like shit as if we are at fault


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:14 pm 
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keogh wrote:
Basically treating supporters like fools
Nothing will change
Until drastic change happens at the top


That brings back some memories. It's over a decade since the artist formerly known as Synbad challenged me to "get a bit closer to the club and you'll see how Carlton is run and it'll shock you"...or words to those effect. He was right. In fact it was more shocking than I thought. I had originally challenged Synners on the assertion that the club was run like an amateur suburban sporting club, but with millionaires at the helm. Again, I was wrong and he was right. In fact, it was worse, as I've spent many hours around suburban sporting clubs.

It gives me no pleasure to admit Synners was 100% right. We haven't spoken since early 2016, but he was 100% correct, and like you - uttered those exact words. He was not surprised when I informed him of my hour long meeting with then CEO and President.

Some things have changed for the better. Brian Cook actually organised the place rather well. Tightened the ship so to speak. But it doesn't change the fact that in that last decade only two men have held the position of list manager. Both sons of ex-Carlton players. Both with a questionable history when it came to that very important position. Both made glaring errors which went unchecked. The nepotism slur probably doesn't stick, but the fact they both aren't great at their job does.

You're never going to get rid of the millionaires. But the first cull has to be the List Manager. Then the GM, then the backline coach, the forwards coach, the midfield coach and the ruck coach. You want a serious football club? Then get some serious people in.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:45 pm 
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Craig Bradley

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It almost feels like a sect
It’s sad because you feel
Like giving up as a supporter
Do we have to wait another 25 years
I’ll be 87 then if I am around


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:08 pm 
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Remember the optimism prior to the season? Most of us were expecting a pretty strong season on field.

What a disaster it has been this year. All with a soft draw.

flower of epic proportions.

Have very little faith in anyone at the club to right the ship. GW is very highly credentialed but will he be allowed to do what’s required? I fully expect him to get Carltoned by the club just like all the others.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:17 pm 
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Craig Bradley

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History show he will be told not to do that
Let’s hope that is not the case and he doesn’t care what some people think


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:52 pm 
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Rod Ashman

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keogh wrote:
It almost feels like a sect
It’s sad because you feel
Like giving up as a supporter
Do we have to wait another 25 years
I’ll be 87 then if I am around



You old fart, you!!!

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 9:09 am 
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DocSherrin III wrote:
keogh wrote:
Basically treating supporters like fools
Nothing will change
Until drastic change happens at the top


That brings back some memories. It's over a decade since the artist formerly known as Synbad challenged me to "get a bit closer to the club and you'll see how Carlton is run and it'll shock you"...or words to those effect. He was right. In fact it was more shocking than I thought. I had originally challenged Synners on the assertion that the club was run like an amateur suburban sporting club, but with millionaires at the helm. Again, I was wrong and he was right. In fact, it was worse, as I've spent many hours around suburban sporting clubs.

It gives me no pleasure to admit Synners was 100% right. We haven't spoken since early 2016, but he was 100% correct, and like you - uttered those exact words. He was not surprised when I informed him of my hour long meeting with then CEO and President.

Some things have changed for the better. Brian Cook actually organised the place rather well. Tightened the ship so to speak. But it doesn't change the fact that in that last decade only two men have held the position of list manager. Both sons of ex-Carlton players. Both with a questionable history when it came to that very important position. Both made glaring errors which went unchecked. The nepotism slur probably doesn't stick, but the fact they both aren't great at their job does.

You're never going to get rid of the millionaires. But the first cull has to be the List Manager. Then the GM, then the backline coach, the forwards coach, the midfield coach and the ruck coach. You want a serious football club? Then get some serious people in.



need a like button.


synners was the one who opened my eyes too.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 10:29 am 
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Stephen Silvagni

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DocSherrin III wrote:
keogh wrote:
Basically treating supporters like fools
Nothing will change
Until drastic change happens at the top


That brings back some memories. It's over a decade since the artist formerly known as Synbad challenged me to "get a bit closer to the club and you'll see how Carlton is run and it'll shock you"...or words to those effect. He was right. In fact it was more shocking than I thought. I had originally challenged Synners on the assertion that the club was run like an amateur suburban sporting club, but with millionaires at the helm. Again, I was wrong and he was right. In fact, it was worse, as I've spent many hours around suburban sporting clubs.

It gives me no pleasure to admit Synners was 100% right. We haven't spoken since early 2016, but he was 100% correct, and like you - uttered those exact words. He was not surprised when I informed him of my hour long meeting with then CEO and President.

Some things have changed for the better. Brian Cook actually organised the place rather well. Tightened the ship so to speak. But it doesn't change the fact that in that last decade only two men have held the position of list manager. Both sons of ex-Carlton players. Both with a questionable history when it came to that very important position. Both made glaring errors which went unchecked. The nepotism slur probably doesn't stick, but the fact they both aren't great at their job does.

You're never going to get rid of the millionaires. But the first cull has to be the List Manager. Then the GM, then the backline coach, the forwards coach, the midfield coach and the ruck coach. You want a serious football club? Then get some serious people in.


I recall that period well Doc. I made the comment recently of your efforts with the club, and how its time to revisit, with the new President all ears.

Was really impressed that you did meet with the Carlton heirarchy.

To be fair, Austin did have a good record at Footscray which followed by a Flag, and Richmond, which followed with a flag, but has failed terribly at Carlton. I had high hopes Austin would find us good players later in the draft.

Lets not forget, especially those doubting the list was not "overrated", Austin said, following the last Trade/ Draft period, post Andrew Russell, Carlton had the 2nd best List in the comp.

Is this comment by Austin what you would call overrating? I would, without hesitation.

A list today which has:

No depth, after discarding 5 best 23 players, and replacing them with kids: Smith O'Farrell, Campo Campo Lord Charleson, and more with White and Young during the year.
No cover for talls, other than the player Austin tried to trade, Lewis Young.
No 2nd ruck, other than a lame Pittonet, who was still lame following PCL surgery after the 2023 season.
9 small forwards, and still short (pardon pun) of a speedy Small forward
The unreasonable weight of expectation on Jagga Smith, a 19yo was going to be our Nick Daicos saviour and solve our lack of speed in the middle. wishful thinking list imo.

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 Post subject: 2025 - What do we think?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:10 am 
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Jagga missing out on this dumpster fire of a season probably isn't a bad thing really.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 11:40 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
Lord Charleson


"Pittonet the Elder!"

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 Post subject: 2025 - What do we think?
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My Hawks mate has already started on me about our draft pick, uuuugh

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2025 12:53 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Lord Charleson


"Pittonet the Elder!"

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