If really did go to the games you would know very well he's probably the only player that has done his job over the last 5 years. These bullshit holier than thou posts you and others are writing here about making stands and crap may fool the simple minded into following you like sheep but anyone with half a brain knows you're full of it. In the last 5 years he has been our very best player by the length of the Flemington straight, his results speak for themselves.

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides

Fev tries alright - just not hard enough. Where did he come in the last time trial? what about the one before that? or any of the previous ones?

Has he EVER been anywhere aside from bringing up the rear of the group? - Surely an AFL footballer who has done 9 preseasons would have an edge on the youngsters and be at least in the middle of the overall group.

I was really pissed off when Jezza was lost to the club. 'How stupid' I thought, 'this is the end' I cried, 'all is lost' I wept. I paced the room, I wondered how the club could ever redeem itself....

and then we won a flag or two.....


It is important for clubs sometimes to remember the club is bigger than any single player

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

IMO the most likely scenario if he were dropped would be a greater application in the magoos and after one, two or three weeks a return to the seniors where after a few weeks we would see some of the discipline issues that get some here so upset.

IMO those things are never going to change and the only way they will be minimised is by being in a successful winning team.

IMO the good outweighs the bad, but if the club can get a good deal in a trade that would be fine. The club is always greater than the individual, something I have mentioned many times on these forums.

So the club has to either wait until the team is successful and keep disciplining him like any other player or trade him at the end of the year.

Dropping him would have been just as effective as a suspension without circus that is occuring.

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you reckon Jar?

I reckon if he were dropped he'd sulk for weeks

denis would have promoted him on the back of shit performances

we'd all be bagging Denis and the club as piss week

and still the rumours, the trade talk, the emails, would be flying around like spittle from a maths teacher's mouth!

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Jar Usa You Are Wrong

What you advocate will surely lead to a reapeat performance as you say.

The club hasnt decided to trade him otherwise they would have left him in the 1s. They want him to be better. They want the team to know that selfishness and sulking isnt part of a team ethos.

This has the potential to straighten him up once and for all. In any case, it doesnt allow poison to seep throught he team

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No it wouldn't- If he was dropped he would have sook and then probably kick 10 for the Bullants and be back in the ones and with in a few weeks he would be at it again.

They have said to him - Fev your on 400k a year here if you think you can get better elsewhere go away for the week and come back and tell us but dont think your going for nothing we want something in return

Now Fev and his manager will be working like made over the next week to see if they can get a better deal and see if someone would be prepared to trade. Remember he was offered around 2 years ago and noone showed a real interest .

It's a good move by the club and might I say a terrific diversion by Pagan

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They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

Great ... i hope we get Livingston and Cranage for him

Let's trade Murph too, we might get a TOP 10 pick!!!!!!!! tops!!!!!!!

That's what I said. Learn to read, there are some great TAFE courses out there.

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What would peoples reaction be if Fev rocks up next Monday and says,

"I'll stay If Pagan goes"

Priceless

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BRING BACK PERFORMANCE BASE PAYMENTS !!!

if he rocked up and said that I'd trade him.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

The Jezza scenario would make me feel better if Fev was also at the end of his career.

Would also be nice if Pratt can fly over to WA and come back with a young Hunter and a young Buzz.

http://au.sports.yahoo.com/070703/60/1asug.html

Former Carlton coach David Parkin believes Brendan Fevola may have played his last game for the Blues and could be in danger of ending his career as an unfulfilled talent.

Fevs not that stupid. He knows as well as anyone, Pago is gone. He also knows he is in no situation to make ultimatums.

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Crayman, that's one fell swoop.

Agree 100% with you.

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I love spinach

If it was a prime Jezza in a growing team after half a decade down the bottom I'm sure you would have thought differently, especially when the flags didn't come.

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides

Former Carlton coach also believed that we should have traded the Walker pick for Nathan Brown.

Former Carlton coach also believed Corey McKernan, Stephen O'Reilly, Michael Mansfield, Andrew Eccles, David Gallagher and Mick McGuane would add value to our squad.

Love him for his three premierships, but senility kicked in about ten years ago and has snowballed since.

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Richard Pratt - A Carlton legend.

Let me get this straight, if we dropped him he would just sulk and now that we've suspended him he's gonna do what exactly???

You guys are making footy into more than what it is. The same crap about culture and stands filled these forums when Pagan arrived. He was gonna get rid of all the dead wood, all the dissenters and in doing so change the culture of the club so that we could win a flag in like ........ now! It's a joke, the reason we're in this mess is because he got rid of all the senior players too quickly and now we're looking to get rid of more, are we gonna do it all again in another 5 years? I've just about had it with the club.

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides

the thing is, Jezza had a prime

Fev hasn't, and may not.

You blame Pagan for this - and every other @#$%&! thing since The snake (aka Denis)
ruined Adam's dalliance with Eve

I blame Fev for his petulance

I blame Fev for his inability to focus of late

I blame the club for putting up

but mostly I understand like the snake and eden and the apples of good and evil

its all just ways to pass the winter's days until we do win again

and when we do

we will

with or without Fev

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Those "senior" players that you speak so highly of all played during 2002 and 2003 as well as Ratten, McKay and Hickmont. In thos 2 years we finished last and 2nd last. So lets not rewrite history and make these guys out to be martyrs

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