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Should Pagan be Sacked?
Yes (NOW) 57%  57%  [ 106 ]
Yes (At the end of season) 36%  36%  [ 67 ]
No (There is no better man for the Job) 6%  6%  [ 12 ]
Total votes : 185
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:00 pm 
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this is getting so so hard......

if pagan does not get sacked this week, i will as a Carlton member take it as a personal insult. i think the club is showing its members, and sponsors a lot of disprespect....... and is the most unprofessional club going around.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:06 pm 
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Sack pagan and about 12 players can go with him. Their is no excuse for not having a go. These are proffesioal footballers getting paid by us. A disgrace.


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No keep him till the end of the year, I want that no.1 pick


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This is pathetic.. im sick of this.. doenst even look like the players care,

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KoRn wrote:
No keep him till the end of the year, I want that no.1 pick


Watching this shit week after week is not worth a number 1 pick. I am sick and tired of this crap, enough is enough.

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Surely he has to go now!!!!!!!!!!!!

What the hell is this crap? Im sick of it


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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
KoRn wrote:
No keep him till the end of the year, I want that no.1 pick


Watching this shit week after week is not worth a number 1 pick. I am sick and tired of this crap, enough is enough.


Exactly... this crap performance is nothing short of totally pathetic.. its making me physically ill.C'mon Carlton, wht the hell are you waiting for... both Daniher and Connoly left and their teams werent performing anywhere near as sh*t as we are.

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Quite simple we as members and supoorters dont like Pagan as coach and have all had a gutfull. I think any supporters respect for Pagan has gone stright to crap.
So we have a coach that members / supporters want gone / dont want to here his spin anymore, dont like his game plan or his treatment of the Kids ect

Now this is what the supporter feels imagine the players who prob feel the same way and have to play for the coach they dont respect, like, understand, relate to, lack confidence in.

I reckon they will all rejoice when Pagan is removed from the club much like the fans and members

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KoRn wrote:
No keep him till the end of the year, I want that no.1 pick


If we dish up 100 point performances for the rest of the season, we will lose 8000 members and struggle to re sign some of the young talent we have already aquired. If drastic changes aren't made in response to this amature rubbish, the administration is undermining any plans to get this club back on track, and should be duly replaced. I don't think it will come to that, because I'm confident the board can see as clearly as we all can that the team is completely rudderless.

Thanks Denis, it's been real.


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Pagan might not even be welcome on the flight home :oops:


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Pagan is kidding everyone if he doesn't leave tonmorrow.

Is he the only one that hadn't noticed the players don't care anymore, they have had enough. The players/team is not this bad they just don't care. You don't inspire them anymore Denis. Leave with dignity and don't force us to sack you. You've added a few more records to the Bible for next season, will be great reading next year.

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If he is there next weekend, I will mail my membership card back to the club - I've had enough.


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That is exactly what I feel like doing also. mailing me membership back to the club. None of them give a shit about how we members feel. i dont think I can go to another game this year while pagan is still there.


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Don't get on that plane, Denis!

Just stay up there and enjoy retirement in Queensland.

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There's actually 12 people on this poll who actually think Pagan should stay. I think they should name and shame themselves.


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I still don't know why people think they know more (and better) than the people running the club.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:18 pm 
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Pagan will go down as the worst coach in our history - shame shame shame. Now I know why some North supporters and even players were happy to see the back of him!!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:20 pm 
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The time for Pratt to be diplomatic is well and truly over.
If Carlton is to restore it's credibility, then Pagan HAS to be sacked this week.
No "wait til the end of the year" or "let him resign due to ill health."

These repeated beltings are a disgrace to the history of the club and the old excuses are wearing thin.

Pagan must be held responsible for the fact that he is not getting the best out of this young group of players before their confidence is shot to pieces.

A further failure of Pagan is that our middle-tier group is non-existent.
The youngsters such as Austin, Grigg, Hampson, Edwards, etc must be given games.

We can't win 10 games to save Pagan's sorry rs now and the list of record beltings continues to grow.
Surely now the Carlton Football Club must put the Club before the individual and dispose of Pagan.

PS - I hope that was short enough for you Blue Sombrero! :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:22 pm 
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I voted to keep pagan but i'm afraid its time for Dick to pull the trigger after that shambles but quite a few players should go with him, no respect for the jumper.


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Surely a press conference on Monday or Tuesday around lunch time is on the cards now.....

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