He plays decent footy, but we struggle as a team whenever he is out on the field. Wins a few taps, hits less of them to decent areas, runs on the spot.

Would have preferred to see Wood lead the ruck division with no recognised ruck at the stoppages when he needed a spell, then just rotate him between FF & the centre bounce until he's ready to go back into midfield again. Rowe could have taken a bounce or five with Hendo in defence until Wood could come back on again.

Tonight we got 80% out of Wood and 72% out of Warnock; we've been consistently getting 78-84% out of Wood which is a good return, so you're looking at about 20 ruck contests, including up to 7 centre square stoppages based on tonights stats (24 goals plus the 4 opening bounces is probably a little behind the average centre stats).

Let's say we have Wood run solo, resting forward a little maximise his centre bounce contribution. You're looking at 70% around the ground, and 90% of centre bounce contests. Let's say it's about 90 ruck contests a game, with 32 centre bounces. So that's about 17 stoppages and 3-4 centre bounces Wood would miss.

Is this going to make or break a football match? It's a disadvantage sure, but what's the disadvantage of Warnock acquiring 8 possessions for a match, with 2 direct turnovers? He had about 3 at half time, when the contest was in full swing.

how did it come to this? we had 4 potentially good ruckman on our list during the Ratten era and now we are relying on a retread like Wood to lead our ruck division. Collingwood realised about 5 years ago that he wasn't up to it. We should start believing other teams' assessments when someone is no good (eg Jones). They are better at it than us.

yep ... the amount of retreads going around in this club. it's much more than a worry.

is it arrogance that we think we can turn them into something ... that their old club was wrong about the assessments?

... or is it blind desperation as our own internal stocks are so dried up, we're in the middle of a 15 year drought.

probs both.

if the last 15 years hasn't humbled the club then nothing will

Lost me tonight. Completely classless in snubbing Buckley at the end of the game.

i feel bad for mick in a way ... b'cos in my opinion it's the benefactors & board, and then the players and then Mick. that's the order of where the scrutiny at carlton football club should be aimed.

Yep. Says more about the club than the coach IMO. We have burnt Pagan, Ratten & now MM.

It's a culture issue. We are pathetic.

Time to change the whole club. Coaches, Players, Recruiters etc.