This is pretty sad news,might be just giving Fevola are scare,most clubs would be saying they going to sack their only real good player when they haven't got anyone,sure Murphy looks like a gun already and Walker and others are looking o.K and Gibbs looks a future star after that it's pretty poor minus Stevens and the battlers like Carazzo and a few other.

If the club thinks it's best to trade him i guess you really think a Number 1 pick would be a minimum or a trade swap to someone as big like Nick Riowolt not a Round 1 pick but at number 15.

So the other option would have been.....tell lies and suggest Fev was injured and therefore that's why we aren't playing him this week.

You are dreamin if you think that would have worked. The media would have been all over it and the club would have been a laughing stock.

The Club has been totally transparent and open. They were 100% professional with the media and now aside from the obvious speculation of 'will he, won't he' the matter is clear cut to every one.

It's a hard pill to swallow but they got on the front foot and had the courage of their convictions.

Regards Cazzesman

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you miss the point - my response was actually in reference to your statement that



You have misrepresented the facts.

It wasnt a random penalty handed down in for a first time offence.

There is little doubt that Fev would have been spoken to on numerous occassions with respect to how he is expected to perform (on and off the field).

Fev was given the option to respond to at the meeting but declined - how is that bad management? should they have beaten a response out of him?

Getting Fev's thoughts about the issue? What would you have liked them to say? - "hey, Fev - that performance on the weekend wasnt that great - would it be ok with you if we suspended you for a week?"

It has been stated the sanction was not for an off field incident but rather for a series of unacceptable actions/attitude on the football field (ie not just the freo game) - yet you persist with implying that the suspension was for a latenight poker game.

We're a laughing stock now, there's rumors flying everywhere! I got a an email from a mate before saying he got suspended for trying to strangle Libba!
They made a simple decision difficult, all they needed to do if they weren't happy with his form on the field is drop him like anyone else. If it's more than on the field then they're not being open and transparent.

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The club has handled the Fevola issue brilliantly. Thank god for Swann because that piss weak coach wouldnt have taken the same stance.

Now that we are the front foot its time to play our shots and axe Pagan!!
I think the recruiting department have been badly burnt with the way denis has developed our kids.
Playing a young kid and telling him to follow or run with your man isnt what development is about Denis.

Stop reading my posts

But i will be honest, i dont know what the big deal is about.
Yes you should never give away a 50m penalty, let alone 100m
Yes you should never back chat a AFL Umpire
Yes you should never go out having a drink at late hours - His manager denied that allegation.
Yes you should always kick the ball to a teamate in the goals square and not go for goal (Brad Johnson did that 3 times against Carlton but no susp)
He hasnt been caught out drinking and drunk in public like didak or cousins this year.


Is there anything else l have missed? So if you want to actually explain why Fev is the worst person at the club?


I have obviously got no idea and don't think there is much in this apart from Pagan trying to make this a big issue by having a press conference to take away the focus from his career. Which is in tatters

Put Whitnal, Stevo and Fev on the sidelines then that will explain why he finishes on bottom again and coaches on next year. Funny that

hehehe... I can see the likeness. I guess the david koresh reference was probably more in relation to how some supporters view him. Aparently he has god like abilities and can do no wrong

Its probably the first time in recent memory that I have fully agreed with how the admin has handled such a thing. It would have been a tough call but they did the right thing. My only gripe was that this should have been done YEARS ago rather than the whole 'the coach loves me' thingy.

Am l the only person that has noticed Felova chasing more since the first couple games of the season?

I think he is actually putting in more effort in the games this year then last year.

Uhh huh. So you were at the meeting? Because you seem to think you know what went on. Or are you allowed to speculate and make stuff up to suit your argument, but no one else is?

He always chases hard, the lack of effort is just a myth from people who don't attend games and see pictures of him in the paper with his hands on his hips.

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides

Exactly

Exactly. Drop him because of the form and discipline issues to play in the magoos like any other player on the list. Run of the mill option, sends a message to Fev and if the club are serious abouta trade they can still get the message out. Being dropped is not going to effect his trade value.

Making it a suspension and holding a press conference gets people thinking well it cannot just be for onfield discipline reasons there has to be something more to it than that in the background, and that is exactly what has happened and the speculation is mounting.

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One of the reasons it's taken "8 years to rebuild a footy team" Game is because petulant, childish, selfish players like Fevola were allowed to get away with murder any and every time they wanted to. As others on here have said, this should have been done with Fev years ago...he was lucky he wasn't out the door after 2002.

I go to the games every week. Yes, there are times he puts in and chases, certainly more than he used to. But Fevola is not paid $400k to 'chase more than he used to', and put in effort when it suits him. He is paid to bust his gut every time he trains and plays, and to put the Club before himself.

It is blatantly obvious that in his 9 years at the Club, with the exception of a brief stint last year (and even then he had his moments, refer game against Hawthorn at the 'G), he has failed to put in the effort required and to put the Club before himself. AND he has continually got away with it.

If this had been a player of lesser ability, or if we had been a stronger team or strong onfield, he would have been out on his arse years ago.

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Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!

yeh he has, dont know wat people talk bout wen they say he isnt trying. All this has been blown at of proportion..

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Jars...what if they did drop him, and he didn't perform in the Twos because he was pissed off at the Club and was having a sulk (not an unlikely scenario)? What do we do then? Let him languish in the twos for the rest of the season, playing crap football?

You reckon that wouldn't affect his trade value?

The Club has done this brilliantly, IMHO. Taken a stand, sent a message to all at the Club, forced the issue for Fevola, and told the football world that Fevola may be up for trade, and to give other clubs plenty of time to work out whether they want him, so that a deal can be done, if necessary.

It has the stamp of a strong CEO written all over it.

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Given Fev's penchant for sulking, there would be real chance that Fev could have spent the remainder of the year in the ants due to refusing to perform to a certain standard - that would definitely have affected his trade value.

The suspension is different -it places the onus on him to commit to certain conditions bfore he is reconsidered for selection. If he thinks its too tough then he doesnt have to return/can remain suspended - there wouldnt be as great a decline in trade value due to continual poor form on field.

If you want to play the 'what if' game we could come up with any scenario imaginable. IMO your 'what if' would be very unlikely.

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I have no problem with the way this has been handled, and cannot understand why there seems to be so many supporters who thnk Fev can continue to behave like a spoiled brat and be unacountable for his actions.

How far do you go until enough is enough? DO you seriously expect that Fevola be allowed to continue to display this petulant behaviour with no consequences, simply because he can be such a good player when he decides to put in the effort?

How do you guys think the guys who do the hard yards, such as Walker, Carrazzo, Bentick, Thornton, feel when they see Fevola start bird watching because he cannot be bothered?

All players make mistakes, but it is ludicrous to suggest, as one person has, that Scott West giving away a 50m penalty has any similarity to Fevola's long history of counterproductive behaviour. One thing that Scott West never does is lean on the fence watching as play goes on around him.

Fevola could do well to take note of what real Club leaders do. He had a few shining examples in his early years at the Club, 2 of whom are now assistant coaches.

And really, to suggest that his trade value has fallen simply because the Club has taken action over this latest display seems a little fanciful. His behaviour is hardly a secret.

Actually Jars, given that the only thing we can go by in trying to predict Fevola's response to situations is past performance, then the situation above, IMHO, is more likely than not.

But I respect your opinion and agree to disagree

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