carrots is another a grader all tied up
nice a graders there

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Yet another stellar example of our list management. Baffling at the time - still not a master stroke.

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I would like to thank Collingwood for helping me keep faith in my old man. He always told me that 'People are thick'.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/paul-c ... 6740513394

Chappy is the player I admire most out of Geelong's reign 2007-13. People salivate about Stevie J and Gary Ablett Jnr- not realising that Chapman was the real star when it counted in that era. I have no idea how fit he is now, but let's say he is fit he has the option of going to Essendon* (which is most likely to lose players to infraction notices) or Carlton (which has limited space in the salary cap due to poor contract negotiations eg- Waite). .....yet such is life.

I hope wherever he goes he has a good couple of years to stick it up the Cats for not having faith in a player who has given so much to that club.

Is there any evidence, besides a few people here, of our salary cap being tight?

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

..lookit, i still think Judd has a role to play, i'll preface this with that..

....and i'm not going to whinge too much about his salary either.. ..we always knew that a 6 yr 1mil p.a type deal was going to screw us at the end of that contract.. ..we knew it at the time, so not going to complain about that now.. ..my issue has always been, that after such a big trade in terms of what we gave to get Judd, and the money to keep him,, i always felt that after such a big trade, that we needed to leave big deals alone for a while.... ..but the following year, picks 2nd and 3rd rounders and a 4 yr term on good coin for knockers, the year after that another good deal and a 1st rounder for McLean.. .... ..it's these other big deals, on the back of the judd deal,, that have limited us.... ..our club was in such a mess on and off field, we needed judd.. ..we didn't 'need' to keep on gambling the big deals on knockers and mclean however..

..in regards to our tpp situation now, sure it's hard to find the articles with enough quotes from the right ppl to believe anything, which is standard form for footy clubs.. .... ..but, you can get an idea by their actions, if you ignore their words and just pay attention to what they do.. .... ..we're told Judd took a 'substantial paycut'.. ..and i believe he did, but what money did he give up..?.. ..we know it was the 3rd party agreement that was the bulk of the paycut, cos we had to hold off on deals last year and make sure we were ok to juggle payments since the 'evil afl' told us late in off-season about them cancelling his 3rd party deal.. .. ....and we had to scramble, pronto.. ..i'm sure a little came off his salary as well, but not this year, this year was part of the original contract.. ..it's the next year that he's taken a paycut.. ..but, considering what he was on, and factoring in no more 3rd party contract.. ..and then, take away the paycut from that total amount and you see that he's still most likely in our top, top echelon of salaries..

..personally, judd is still that much of a champ, that even next year if he gets a good run at pre-season and stays proper fit, he'll still be one of our better players.. ..doubtful if he deserves top dollar, but very few on our list are better than him.... ..and thats the real tradegy, that we can grind judd down for 6 yrs straight, and at his age and miles he's still one of our best players.... ..yes i can see and agree that he doesn't run both ways hard enough.. ..he does get back to help, his ability to be involved in contest after contest has always been there, so he's gut running, sometimes he wont chase hard enough however.. ..i see this.. ..i also see him doing a mountain of work in the middle with 3 guys hanging off him, so i can excuse him if he's a bit down on energy at times on the field.. ..this year he looked worse, but no pre-season and battling hammy and other niggles.. ..but if you leave too much workload to too few, they will tire out.. ..we see this with a few of our players..

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With all due respect Brad - the information comes from pretty good sources.

No offence intended and don't mean to question your sources, just asking the question.

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MY 2 posts
1 dispute the blatant lies re Murphy v Goodes playing through injury
2 Based on 1 asked for facts.

My argument is with the outlandish statements not grounded in fact.

Our list IS average and Judd is no longer value for money no matter what actual or imagined pay cut he took.

Abuse is cheap and easy.

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We just signed a 700K a year player. No surprise that it's tight.
People say "But the TPP is more this year" and that's right on face value but players salaries also rise accordingly.

It's also odd when we suggest that players a,b,c,d and e have been de-listed so we should have more money.
Those spots need to be filled and monies need to be paid to the players filling them.

List management will be all the trickier next year considering we have the likes of Walker, Gibbs, Jamison, Yarran, Robinson, Simpson, Garlett etc etc coming out of contract.

As much as I love Synbads easter bunny lines, I'm just trying to understand why journos want me to think that Judd took a huge paycut when he didnt

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The club said as such.
Judd said so.
Common sense says so.

Not sure what else you need? Maybe someone here saying he didn't seals the deal?

I think from memory, the money "saved" from Judd's contract was the money relating to the third party Visy deal, which wouldn't have been in the cap to begin with.

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HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

GET EASTER BUNNY

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It was announced to be a 40% clip.

At best guess that may now have Judd playing for something around the 500 - 550K mark next year.

I think Judd himself would have known that he couldn't demand 900K. Pretty obvious when you think about it.

I'm thinking that as well.

The club said this, the club said that... The club said 2 flags by 2015

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So when Judd retires (or takes a reduced contract) at the end of next season we will have a load of space to bring the type of players we identify we need during the 2014 season.

We can and most possibly will refresh our list this offseason with 9-10 new faces including rookies. This along with the 3 last season (should have been a lot more if the coach was on the ball) should see our team start to form a some new character. Should see us stop banging our heads against the wall year after year as we make the same mistakes.

Overall I would hope that we have a committee of smart people working out how to create a winning list with the new parameters created by free agency. Things are no longer what they use to be.
The balance of players not in the free agency zone ,players that are and players that are brought in as free agents has to be spot on and hopefully the Blues can get at the front of the pack by getting a strong smart committee that researches how teams overseas are doing it and mixes that with their own brilliant ideas.

No need to go overseas. The way to do it is right there in front of us. There are many clubs planning their list for 2016. Our club seems to have stopped at 2014.

Want the job Doc?

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dane's trolling again

so when was judd ever on 900 k at the cfc ????

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