In 1987 we won the flag and so did the twos.
We were obviously the big thing of the day and a dynasty was to follow.
But it didn't.

Richmond is obviously the team to beat at the moment but they lost a few games this year they were supposed to win.
They rely on each man winning his one on one contest and or moving the ball forward in any way they can to someone else's one on one contest.
It's not much different to the Hawthorn early 60's plan, just that the game is faster and the players more skilled.
The game moves in cycles. The era of the marking power forwards followed where multiple forwards were kicking 100 a year.
Then came the mosquito fleet, which is sort of where we are now again with the small forwards kicking goals from forwards stoppages and the odd power forward as well.
With the 6-6-6, it will be rucks who can clear the footy from the centre and from round the ground stoppages. Grundy should be able to do it but he just drops the ball at his feet like Kreuzer.
NicNat when fit will show us how to do it. Then a fast break and the power forwards take over again. (Darling, Kennedy for example). Watch what happens next year when Patton gets to Hawthorn (if he can stay on the park) and they get Mitchell back with O'Meara and maybe Crouch.

I believe we are more or less well set. We have a midfield that can get clearances and we have the makings of a tall forward line with an elite power forward (who needs to improve his kicking) and two backups IF THE BALL GETS DELIVERED CLEANLY.

Another class midfielder and a decent ruckman and we will maybe be at the cutting edge of a game style that can beat the current trend of smaller players dominating at both ends and a defence relying on two sweepers to clean up the shit ball lobbed in to the F50.

The question is, who is that ruckman going to be? TDK is a leaper. He can get his hand to it but he needs to get taps to advantage, not just hit outs, which are over rated unless they go somewhere we want.

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I agree - and are you saying simmo was a good get or not?

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It is amazing what they are doing. How they can continue to cause turnovers AND have players ahead of the ball is crazy. Sometimes they turn it over at HB go flat out with forward handpasses and still kick to a forward line where THEY are outnumbering the defenders.

They have such high energy.

I think we missed out on a good free hit with CEY (Cam Ellis-Yoleman).
At worst he'd be great depth in the VFL and at best like this season, he would've been a good tagger to eventually replace Ed.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-29/ ... gterm-deal

I’m not so sure. 4 years for a fringe 27 year old is a long contract.

Brisbane seems pretty sure and they are going ok.

We didn't need to give him a contract that long though.
I don't even think we had a look at him, no ITK posters have said anything about him.

Are you saying if we offered him three years to play for a bottom four team he would have said to Brisbane, no thanks, I’ll take the year less at the lower performing club?

Clearly I didn't say that.
The point I was making is that we most likely didn't even have a crack.
And we're not exactly a club that can ill afford forging free hits, as you've pointed out.

Fair enough. I just don’t think he’s a very good player.

That's fair too.
I think at this point in time he'd be better than a few players on our list and he'd address the age gap as well as the midfield depth gap.

Richmond’s premiership team
I count 9 of the 22 either
Pre season
Rookie
Or pick 50 or lower listed
This obviously doesn’t include Butler Stack Graham who didn’t make the team
Shows the importance of recruiting

Well given the enthusiasm for trading away our higher picks we should be right for plenty of +50's.

Feel free to put your money where your mouth is guys
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seriously, if you are going to talk about this then do some proper @#$%&! analysis!

richmond fielded 9 first round picks saturday. the average age of the 9 was around 27....
this means they are not only quality players but very well experienced...unlike the blues where the average age would be closer to 21..
it affords richmond the luxury of taking a few gambles with guys like pickett and stack..
also, being that their top end talent is very experienced, it means they have had many more drafts/recruiting periods to assemble the right mix of players around their quality core
it seems pretty basic to me but i am sure you will continue banging on about the same shit over and over and over again...

Scott Selwood as a DFA ...?

Maybe as another tagger with Ed ?

Club they do indeed bring a pressure game but they are also front runners and that is they run forward of the ball expecting to win or push the footy forward. This is where good teams have beaten them previously, by winning the contested footy and denying them the run.

Also their defence needs to be manned up, made accountable by not pushing your forwards too far up the ground and make sure you spread them to not allow 3rd man up. Again a disciplined team has done it and done it well.

GWS lost their structure and confidence in being able to execute on Saturday and the game was over in the 2nd. They did everything to play into Richmond’s hands, including the plus one behind the ball. Make the plus 1 at the contest and the game changes. I’m not saying they didn’t deserve to win but they were lucky with the opponent they played.

Maybe I’m wrong but play to our strengths and we beat them with contested midfield, KP forwards and the best backline in the league when all playing.

https://twitter.com/traderadio/status/1178587231654563840

[quote="keogh"]Richmond’s premiership team
I count 9 of the 22 either
Pre season
Rookie
Or pick 50 or lower listed
This obviously doesn’t include Butler Stack Graham who didn’t make the team
Shows the importance of recruiting good recruiters; not the dross we have now


EFA (edited for amusement)

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Yep over and over again
My biggest criticism of Sos and our recruiting department
An inability to find good players with late picks rookie picks
Every premiership team has a similar profile
Instead giving spots too so many recyled AFL spuds
As far as top 10 picks are concerned
It doesn’t guarantee a player will be a gun at 27
Some players mature early some mature late
That’s why overseeing the lower leagues is so important

Nobody can still tell me how the club oversees these comps


There are players in the lower level leagues that could be good AFL players which would help our mid 20 age profile
Like Gibbons has this year
Whether you like it or not Pickett was so far ahead of what was available in that mid season draft
We lack depth in the midfield
Face it
Silvangi and Brodie screwed up with that one

We had first pick
Where not talking about 18 year olds being recruited where the unknown factor is greater

Take your @#$%&! Blues jumper off that you must sleep with and look at the facts
Deluca is a very limited player

pardon?

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