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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:27 pm 
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As if ......

.... in all the history of the VFL/SANFL/WAFL/VFA/AFL...... no club has ever not been coached... without anyone wanting to coach that club.

Any jobless coach would want to coach that club......

There would only be a handful of coaches that would pass on that job is without a contract.. and Ratts was never going to be one of those...

Why would he apply????....

aand yes.... in the interview they said.... "You better not take this job cos it will kill you...... "



Chocco showed what you can do with a club like that...


No way were they spooked at the interview....

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:08 am 
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Why are some of our former assistants surprised at their dismissal in light of Ratts' sacking?

Every new coach will ALWAYS bring his own people in which is just how it has always been.

Why do our former assistants not seem to get that regardless of their contracts?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:51 am 
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Why are some of our former assistants surprised at their dismissal in light of Ratts' sacking?

Every new coach will ALWAYS bring his own people in which is just how it has always been.

Why do our former assistants not seem to get that regardless of their contracts?


Maybe they thought they were doing a great job.

Maybe the club has handled their exit poorly.

Maybe they're no more pissed off than their counterparts at other clubs but for whatever reason it ends up in the media because it's Carlton.

Who knows. I'll just be glad when the last Ratten interview is done, and sticks is quietly moved on, and the old guard is gone, and it's all about looking forward.

The club has to start showing my teenage kids what I've been talking about all these years. They didn't think dad gave them a mediocre club to follow, but that's how it's turned out so far.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:54 am 
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Mrs Caz wrote:
I haven't actually said I disagree with your opinion ....Only the amount of times you post it.

I've said my piece about that now...thanks for listening.

A thought for you Mrs C. Have you ever wondered what it would be like having Synbad sit behind you at the footy ? :cool:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:01 am 
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murraycray wrote:
Mrs Caz wrote:
I haven't actually said I disagree with your opinion ....Only the amount of times you post it.

I've said my piece about that now...thanks for listening.

A thought for you Mrs C. Have you ever wondered what it would be like having Synbad sit behind you at the footy ? :cool:

Murray... she has probably sat next to me 30 times at the footy.... :thumbsup: if you include VFL and TAC as well as practice games with AFL.....

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:07 am 
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Synbad wrote:
murraycray wrote:
Mrs Caz wrote:
I haven't actually said I disagree with your opinion ....Only the amount of times you post it.

I've said my piece about that now...thanks for listening.

A thought for you Mrs C. Have you ever wondered what it would be like having Synbad sit behind you at the footy ? :cool:

Murray... she has probably sat next to me 30 times at the footy.... :thumbsup: if you include VFL and TAC as well as practice games with AFL.....

Well, I dips me lid to her. :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:17 am 
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Watch it when you dip that lid... something might fall loose... :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:47 am 
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Synbad wrote:
Watch it when you dip that lid... something might fall loose... :lol:

Speaking from experience ? :razz:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:55 am 
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murraycray wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Watch it when you dip that lid... something might fall loose... :lol:

Speaking from experience ? :razz:

murray the weirdest thing about people potting people who contribute and bitch about not liking their material.. is they contribute nothing themselves.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:55 am 
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The more things change the more they stay the same. I defected to CSC a month or so back because I just got so sick of the relentless, repetitive posts saying the same thing over and over and over, and I thought I'd have a peak in to see if the coast was clear...... but apparently not.

For the record, Ratts should not have got the job in the first place, and only did because Swan and the committee believe in whats easy and obvious and not what takes some serious effort ie a decent process. But the committee made the deals and should honor them and Ratts is fully entitled to his money. And now Mick has deigned to join us after we basically were interviewed by him as our single candidate and he agreed he'd wander in sometime in November and get his $1m a year. He better be very successful, very quick.

We are a rabble with a committee bigger than the Australian Cricket team and about as useful as a 12th man who can't field very well. The only two supporters who count are Pratt and Mathieson and no-one even gets to vote on new committeemen, the board just keeps appointing them. Still clearly the club doesn't need the money from my membership or the $200 raffle tickets it flogs and it has shown it is happy to throw members money down the drain with repeatedly with poor appointments and subsequent payouts. I don't love my club anymore, I hope over time I will love it again. I'll keep my AFL supporters package but the second Carlton membership I was getting is clearly not required by a club that happily appoints and pays out coach after coach.

Ruthlessness in club appointments is merely a euphemism for bad decision making that allows the board to pretend it is tough rather than incompetent.

It'll take me a long time to warm to a dirty, dishonest, prententious, avaricious, vindictive ex Richmond and Collingwood person. (and there are easily identifiable examples of all those traits right up to his unnecessary, unfair, and from all reports untrue bagging of Richardson). Mick can coach but he is a very hard man to like.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:05 am 
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superb post

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:32 pm 
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gerry atric wrote:
It'll take me a long time to warm to a dirty, dishonest, prententious, avaricious, vindictive ex Richmond and Collingwood person. (and there are easily identifiable examples of all those traits right up to his unnecessary, unfair, and from all reports untrue bagging of Richardson). Mick can coach but he is a very hard man to like.


You left out Western Bulldogs and West Coast.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:53 pm 
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woof wrote:
gerry atric wrote:
It'll take me a long time to warm to a dirty, dishonest, prententious, avaricious, vindictive ex Richmond and Collingwood person. (and there are easily identifiable examples of all those traits right up to his unnecessary, unfair, and from all reports untrue bagging of Richardson). Mick can coach but he is a very hard man to like.


You left out Western Bulldogs and West Coast.


St Kilda.....

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:03 pm 
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wasthesonofapreacherman wrote:
Went to the AFLCA awards last night. After kicking on at 23, I had a chat in the lift with an influential person at Port. Ratts was definitely not going to get the job and thus pulled out. He said that contrary to media drivel, they had had some very credible applicants and the position had now been filled - I tried bating him but I wouldn't tell me. We chatted for a few minutes about our respective clubs and jovially went on our way.


The last couple of weeks have solidified my viiews on Ratts. It's easy to just blame the suits for their incompetency in appointing a horribly 'out of his depth' coach. If Ratts truly loved the club, he should have urged the powerbrokers back in 2007 to find someone better prepared for the rigours of AFL coaching. He could have asked to work with that person as an assistant, developed himself, gone to another club for more experience etc etc.

Instead, he naively and foolishly came to the club with a belief that he could turn things around. Yes we improved (very slowly). Was that due to Ratts or the maturing list + draft picks???? We'll never know I guess, and the pro Ratts lobby will say the improvement came from Ratts????

What has since happened? For someone who was soooooooooooooo unlucky to be sacked, there isn't much love out there for him to find a new job. And now we hear he wants a break for a year. In an interview straight sfter his last game, he said he would weigh his options (cause he had so many!!) and remain in the game.

In an interview, Ratts would get smashed by 'credible applicants'. He has a grossly inflated opinion of his ability as a leader of men.

If Ratts doesn't move heaven and earth to secure even just a 'midfield coaching gig this year, he will spiral into oblivion.

If he is waiting for some dream assistant/senior assistant gig to befit his personally percieved capability, he has not learnt a thing in 5 years.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:41 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
murraycray wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Watch it when you dip that lid... something might fall loose... :lol:

Speaking from experience ? :razz:

murray the weirdest thing about people potting people who contribute and bitch about not liking their material.. is they contribute nothing themselves.

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Who's potting ? FWIW I don't disagree with the majority of your posts. I just don't believe you need to go over and over the same thing ''400 times''. Again FWIW, I believe we initially descended into shitness when we appointed Brittain, overlooking Worsfold and Lyon.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:16 pm 
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So Murray, you'd have to say then that despite David Parkin's many admirable qualities, talent spotting senior coaches isn't one of them.


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gerry atric wrote:
It'll take me a long time to warm to a dirty, dishonest, prententious, avaricious, vindictive ex Richmond and Collingwood person. (and there are easily identifiable examples of all those traits right up to his unnecessary, unfair, and from all reports untrue bagging of Richardson). Mick can coach but he is a very hard man to like.


I don't give a flower where he's from or how good a bloke he is.
I want Carlton to win premierships.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:43 pm 
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So Murray, you'd have to say then that despite David Parkin's many admirable qualities, talent spotting senior coaches isn't one of them.

Exactly John. As much as i admire David Parkin, and remain ever grateful for his contribution to the CFC, I think Brittain was a mistake. A bloody big one.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:36 pm 
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well i got my letter in the mail. Clearly MM is not of a certain european background - "i want you to stand beside me not behind me" (i am of a certain european background so and i am not offended by my comments)

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:44 pm 
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thehulk wrote:
well i got my letter in the mail. Clearly MM is not of a certain european background - "i want you to stand beside me not behind me" (i am of a certain european background so and i am not offended by my comments)


Depends how much of a certain european backround are you not to be offended? :roll: :lol:


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