Yeah, I don't reckon many players say they hate the coach.

In life, forget what they say and look at what they do.

MM says we can't attract players, but it's also the case that we can't hold onto to some that we want to keep. Why is that? Where's the love.

As BV points out, we also can't attract top quality assistants. The best assistants would look as much at how the position will affect their senior coaching aspirations as closely as location and money.

Everitt seemed to take in the MM message pretty well, but we can't wait around till the end of the season every year to organize a cup of tea and a biscuit with MM and every recruiting target.

MM's charms one on one might work, but a Dylan Shiel can only look at the club from the outside, the feedback from other players and how the team looks to be playing. Right now I don't think he'd be dreaming of wearing a monogrammed navy jumper.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Never read so much sooking.

Malthouse has been there for 2 years and has recruited some very good footballers, but they're still very young. They won't have an impact for another year or two.

Look at what St Kilda and Richmond do when their coaches don't deliver a flag in three years and do the exact opposite.

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Get Blue VAin

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

I don't buy 'the players like him' line.

Firstly I don't see the players bleeding for their coach MM but more importantly players should be professional enough to respect themselves and want success regardless of who the coach may be.

The big question mark for me is his game plan, but you do raise an important consideration when judging MM the coach and that is what his success is with development of players and his recruitment of quality innovative assistant coaches to give us the edge. I don't see evidence of either of those.

I don't have the answers, just perception.

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The Tigers are holding onto their guy wayyyyyyyyyy too long.

He's a pumpkin.

Scott Watters? Dill.

Not sure a 60+ coach @ $1.0m a year is just what we need now that we are a re-build club.

A $500 a year coach with more money for better assistants or recruiting staff or fitness staff would be the way to go now.

Particularly recruiting.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

It is strange how people say we shouldn't chop and change coaches. What club in any sport keeps a guy for 10 years when they are having no success? Should of Richmond stayed the course with Francis Bourke until the 90s?

the key point is..
when we change this coach
we need to change the last of the 'no gooders' at the same time.
whoever they are.
how is it to be done without a board spill?
who has the answers & who has the power, vision & guts to implement the changes that give our club back to us?
gotta do it all at once, don't we?

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Yayyyyy

Payrise

"I started of with nothin and I still got most of it left"



Regards Cazzesman

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Ten years is a little different to 2.

We tried the $500k coach and he was useless. We gave him 5 years which I think was fair. He wasn't considered good enough to get a job at any of the 17 other clubs so it seems we made the right call.

All I say is give him at least 5. We have some good kids on the way up, and salary cap sponges on the way out.

As I've said before, I cry myself to sleep over Jacobs, but don't lose a wink over Eddie, Jeffy and Robbo.

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ratten wasn't exactly useless, he got us to the finals on several occasions, he did also get a job with another club and so far has tasted some success

micky has on the other hand transformed the playing list (which I gather you improve of) over the last three years and seems to be going in the opposite direction of rattens so called downhill skiers

lets get rid of micky and then we will see if anybody else picks him up

Unfortunately not all things are equal. Mick has been left with a fairly ordinary list after ageing, retirements and sackings.

You could debate whether it was a good idea to get Thomas - but I think he is worth the risk. You could argue we shouldn't have picked up Jones, Tutt, Jaksch etc but I think it's too early to tell.

We need a ruckman!! Until we sort that issue we're kidding ourselves.

We had probably the best ruckman in the comp and we told him he was #4.

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Quite the conundrum....
Its a hard decision, and Parkin was right in a way.
Get rid of Mick, and who else is there who can do the job ? Mick was given time, and rebuilt Collingwood... twice.
We ve gone down the unproven coach path before and it backfired. We can pick out one of the best assistants in the caper, but there's no guarantee he ll be good enough when in the main coaching seat. Guess s a difference this time could be, that a coach from a successful AFL environment, who has had enough time to develop in the AFL system (eg. Hinkley, Walsh, Scott, Longmire), is a lot different then what we did when we went with Ratts, which was pluck a guy who was coaching in the suburbs, who had aprox a year of experience as an AFL assistant (in a losing environment under Den Den mind you).
Interesting times ahead....



Reckon Jacksh is a great get and will prove that in time.
Doc now starting to sow what a good pick up he was after a slow start last year.
Everritt also a good get.
Tutt cost us virtually nothing so no big deal.
Ditto Jones (swap for pick 46), who I feel sorry for as the delivery into the forward line has been disgraceful.
Thomas will prove his worth in time... you ll see.

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yeah all the clubs are beating down rattens door



how was his final year at carlton???

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And then we picked up another coach who wasn't considered good enough to get a job by any of the other 17 clubs.
Great logic.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

How much is Everitt on? If he's getting 500k, is he still a good get?
If we could have used that money to retain Betts, is he still a good get?

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Surely Everitt is not on $500k

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Given we got him and pick 39 for pick 32 - I seriously doubt he's on halfa. If he is, I demand answers.

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..ratten finals' years were built upon the individual brilliance, and super human effort of C.Judd 3 votes.. ..and the only high season finish was 2011, a season where only about five or six teams were competitive in the whole year, one of the most lopsided seasons I can remember.. ..and we still didn't string a good run of form together.. ..and we were two and a half games behind 4th, which also happened to be the previous year's wooden spooners..

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..if you can't be good, be good at it..

Everitt is on peanuts

If Everitt is on peanuts, I'll have two bags please