i think the cfc should go to ground on all issues regarding ,rebuiiding,malthouse contract,board issuess just play football beat saints and pies and these topics will quiet down (i hope)

MLG is an extremely astute and capable leader. That's not something I've read, I know this for fact - his family were in business with mine outside football for years (though I only met him personally for the first time at the AGM two years ago). No matter how switched on he is though, he's got a mammoth task in front of him to get everyone pulling in the same direction.

FWIW, I'm giving MLG the benefit of the doubt on two points:
1) I think putting himself on the nominations committee for board is a genuine attempt to try and short circuit attempts by board members to bring in "mates"
2) His appointment of SOS was based on his recent list management experience at GWS and his established recruiting networks - *not* because the two are mates - and it was genuinely the appointment the club needed.

I hope I'm right.

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O say does that star spangled banner yet wave.

hes there because he was allowed to be there
he has no power
and he can be turfed out the same way as a single candle can be blown out....

this nominee board isnt his idea.. to stop others getting numbers up...

its because the others wanted the constitutional change that the motion went up ... not because he wanted it to stop others...

people are very naive if they believe this guy is an independent...

he isnt....

he does what hes told or else...

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If that's true Synners, we're [REDACTED] as a club. Like I said, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

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O say does that star spangled banner yet wave.

We'll see Synners, 2 years!!!

Nobodies still given a credible reason why both Gooch and Trigg specifically mentioned the Oligarchs and poor admin/board!!!

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

You guys in wrong thread?

Yeah cmon guys
this is the SakC Madhouse / Bring Back Ratts thread

Don't go off topic.

We need to synchronise our microwaves and be a united rabble

Just listened to Lo G being interviewed on 3AW with Caro, Lloyd, etc. He sounds exactly like the bumbling fool we've got as our federal treasurer. He gets all hot under the collar when he his limited intellect and ego is cornered , to the point of shouting down the interviewer. I would hate to work for this guy and just as I feel about Hockey I wouldn't trust him. If any of you think he can have a calming and unifying influence at the club then I'm sorry but it's just not going to happen. Don't get a good businessmen confused with a good leader. Here is Trigg trying to involve people and bring members to the club and this bozo gets on radio with no charisma, spews out 'at the end of the day' about 20 times and does the proverbial bull in a china shop.
Good businessmen are a dime a dozen. They think they are leaders but the only reason people listen and work for them is solely out of fear and/or for a wage. That doesn't equal success at a club.
All in all we might still become successful with this champing gorilla at the helm but he is not ideal and so it looks unlikely. He is deadset one of the pack of far right wing wolves down there. Notice how he said carefully we are "rebuilding our depth" not rebuilding per se. We've been 'rebuilding our depth' for years, actually
Mick I feel very sorry for you, and feel embarrassed yet another another coach will have his career tarnished by a Carlton bozo. The list is starting to regenerate already under you, you are getting good players in and getting rid of the players who are not professional. With the axing/departure of Garlett, Waite, Robinson and a few others we were always going to dip a bit at the start. By the end of the year we will be clearly on track as a competitive unit with plenty to look forward to. Except you probably won't be there

Malthouse should get a 2 year extension. Not a long term commitment, but enough to get the list established ready to be ultra competitive. Assess after that. Not sure this will happen, though. He is the best person for our situation at this point in time.

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

Why?

The guy doesnt even review game tapes.
not a game day coach
has one gameplan

I dont get why the media and his peers keep saying he is the best coach for the club right now. Sure he has experience, but he has simply put this club backwards. Now its flower due to delisting players and players leaving he is best for club. Players cant follow his gp. Any coach can lead the team to loses for a few years while kids come in. Dont need to pay 1mill a yr for that

appoint a coach that will be there in 5 yrs. We should of learnt with ratt / malthouse takeover. Players ratts brought in suited his gameplan. Game plan mick tried implementing doesnt work with our playing list. So get a new coach and move on.

i would cut malthouse free and i would do it once this season has been deemed a "write-off".

I personally deemed it a write off once i saw our team list for the opening game V richmond. too many taggers, too much negative football not enough flair, speed & creativity and the guys who can provide that are on malthouse's outer. you could see right then the way not only that game would go, but our season as a whole.

by the mid point of the season and with finals completely out of the question i'd sack mick. I'd be looking around the place on the hush sounding out a replacement right the freak now.

our board & president and all front office staff are a collection of a laughable bunch of losers and yes men too obsessed with self worth ... so i expect none of this to happen.

appint a coach for 5 years or a coach he can hang around for 5 years???

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... and for the record. Ratten was clueless off-the-field with no idea how to build and develop a list ... but his gameday tactics and strategy were far more suited to the modern game than malthouse's.

Agreed, I would be happy with a 2 year extension. The whole irony is if he had of been told the true nature of the list and the proper course of action before he got to the club he would have done things differently from the start. He showed at Collingwood he was prepared to coach under a rebuild mandate. It's the morons on the board and their buddies that have told him what they wanted , then realised what they wanted was not realistic, then expect him to change things around while still challenging for the 8 all in the space of a year. And I'm really tired of people acting the same way on this forum. All they come up with is some patchy players we lost and a game plan that is supposedly 'suspect'. As soon as we start winning the game plan will look fine. It's the nature of footy.

Sack the coach sack the players sack the goal umpires sack the secretaries sack the lawn mower sack the IT guy - no worries Bruce whatever you say

i'm just sick to death of this club, its board and the way it's run. from a coaching perspective, the game has passed mick by. pure and simple. at least Leigh Matthews had the non presence of ego and enough self-reflection to admit the game had passed him by, and imo he had a lot more to offer than malthouse's one point plan ...

my life isn't getting any longer, and another 2 years of watching the road crash led by the same board off the field and mick on it will just about kill off any motivation to follow carlton at any level.

i know i'm not alone with this.

It's a moment in time.
We will regroup and regenerate.

My 11 yo mentioned this morning on our way to school that it's incredible Carlton didn't win a flag for over 20 years for the second time in our history but we still have 23 flags over 150 years. Even with this drought we have won a flag on average every 7 years. That's amazing.

I told him a lot went wrong in the 90's despite winning 1 flag and featuring in 2 GFs.

A lot went wrong last decade too, including an unprecedented penalty by the AFL to a club on the bottom of the ladder to force us out of Princes Park and to The Dome. Evryone agreed this was going to set back the club 10 years.

Then there was the compromised drafts where GCS and GWS drafted the cream of Australia's talent and we were left with the dregs and that's what we had to develop.

Then there was the No 1 picks which haven't lived to our expectations and the loss of a star CHF to get Judd, which we should have found another way to get Judd. Add all the dud draftees since Livingston, it is obvious we have to be patient with this rejuvenation period.

We have no choice. We have to be patient.

It's just a moment in time....we will rise to the top again.

The big question is whether MM has the GP for the modern game. If not, do we keep him because the players love him and he will attract good footballers to the club during this rebuild?

None of us know. Let's hope someone does. An independent review is required from top to bottom. If LoG does make that happen, he will win a lot of supporters support without having to make personal comments about previous administrations which put a few off side.

We need to build up United.

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"Told the true nature of the list".
By who? The board, the CEO, the players themselves?
FFS, if a coach accepts a role and requires a board to tell him the state of the list, he's a bigger fool than they are. He had just spent a year in the media, if he couldn't make an in-depth, accurate assessment of exactly where we were at before accepting the job, he should have stayed on his book tour.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Forget the nonsense Bondi about the players loving him. When the ball is bounced on Saturday, the players will perform to how they are trained, how their instincts are developed and how they react to the opposition pressure and strategies.
Love for a coach won't make one bit of difference. Anyone who has spent substantial time in a football environment will know players may have an affinity with a coach but once he's sacked, they quickly move on to the next regime.

Good coaches create an environment where players develop and learn. Players will respect that knowledge and skill. They're the aspects we should be judging the coaches on. Not how much affection the players have for them.
As for attracting good footballers. Let's attract quality assistant coaches and create a program that develops players instead of chasing players who have been developed. That's the sustainable long term solution.
And while you're at it, ask yourself why Carlton can't get strong minded, ambitious,quality assistant coaches. That is impeding our player development as much as anything.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Bingo Blue Vain