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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2025 4:20 pm 
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i've never seen anything from durdin suggesting he's going to be good?

his first game this year where he roved like a small forward and tackled and chased and applied pressure and even went the billy elliot speccy. i thought i may have had him wrong all along.

but that performance was clearly the outlier in his career so far. never done anything like that before, or ever since. a shame. one of these small forwards could have really made the position all theirs this season, but nope. NOPE!


incidentally. for all the talk about key position forwards and how essential they are.

i dare say a fleet of small forwards like hawks, pies or cats is probably more of a winning combination. a good defensive key forward who can be a target and bring it to ground/ create a contest and spoil and disrupt the intercept & fast rebound game of the oppo ...

... is way more effective than a two or three headed monster we are running and a bunch of actual potatoes that we bring it to the ground to.

but you have to run and carry and be efficient and use the corridor, and ball use is king in that system. and we have not drafted skilled, smart and selfless players who could execute such things.


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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2025 4:23 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
more damning evidence and footage.

the really frustrating thing is some of us have been identifying these very things for much longer than 2 years. under voss, there's been no improvement only regression.

drain the swamp.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1HFM3UzF2a/

Once again, they do a great job in showing the non believers how embarrassing our game plan and development is... 4 years on ffs

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2025 4:44 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
more damning evidence and footage.

the really frustrating thing is some of us have been identifying these very things for much longer than 2 years. under voss, there's been no improvement only regression.

drain the swamp.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1HFM3UzF2a/


Interesting where O Hollands is rated (234th of 258 players with 15+ kicks inside 50).

He tries his guts out and is a solid player but it's a shame he's not very damaging.

He didn't ask to be picked where he was picked but it shows again the drafting has been poor.

An outside player who doesn't really hurt the opposition. On the other wing you have Acres who also works very hard but butchers it too much.

We really lack a Gryan Miers type, but it's not just the player kicking...it's about mid/forward connection...leading to certain spots in the ground even if you aren't going to be used by the kicker...working together to drag defenders away and create space.

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2025 4:46 pm 
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BTW wouldn't Jimmy Bartel be a great assistant/development coach?

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2025 5:14 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
more damning evidence and footage.

the really frustrating thing is some of us have been identifying these very things for much longer than 2 years. under voss, there's been no improvement only regression.

drain the swamp.

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1HFM3UzF2a/


It's obvious isn't it? I've been wondering the same thing myself the last couple of years....why do we rarely kick to the advantage of the fwd?

Who is the fwd/mid coach?


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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2025 5:28 pm 
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Eddie Betts after 51 games - 52 goals
Motlop after 51 games - 49 goals

I couldn't believe that stat when I saw it so I looked it up myself
Difference is Eddie was 2 1/2 seasons to get to 51 games
Motlop is into his 4th season

I wonder back in 2007 were we saying why is Eddie getting a game

Eddie 2005 19 games 19 goals
Eddie 2006 20 games 20 goals
Eddie 2007 17 games 21 goals kicked 5 in last game of the year Kruezer Cup
Eddie 2008 18 games 24 goals

Motlop 2022 12 games 12 goals
Motlop 2023 21 games 24 goals
Motlop 2024 7 games 6 goals
Motlop 2025 11 games 7 goals

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2025 7:45 pm 
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Effes wrote:
BTW wouldn't Jimmy Bartel be a great assistant/development coach?



absolutely ... he would even have some excellent head coach ability within a few years of that, imo


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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2025 11:54 am 
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I think we're a huge chance of winning the next four games. And that will leave us at 8-7. IF we can get a bit of confidence and flow into our game (and it's a massive IF), we might be able to snaffle another four or so wins against teams whose season has faltered.


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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2025 12:10 pm 
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I think we'll be OK against Essendon*, mainly because of their injuries

North & West Coast have both shown a bit lately, not totally confident about those games

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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2025 7:04 pm 
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Sportsday @SENSportsday
"They're double the next worst team in the competition."

LISTEN | Hoyney on the Blues' bad kicking.

https://x.com/SENSportsday/status/1927284873036751318

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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2025 7:10 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Eddie Betts after 51 games - 52 goals
Motlop after 51 games - 49 goals

I couldn't believe that stat when I saw it so I looked it up myself
Difference is Eddie was 2 1/2 seasons to get to 51 games
Motlop is into his 4th season

I wonder back in 2007 were we saying why is Eddie getting a game

Eddie 2005 19 games 19 goals
Eddie 2006 20 games 20 goals
Eddie 2007 17 games 21 goals kicked 5 in last game of the year Kruezer Cup
Eddie 2008 18 games 24 goals

Motlop 2022 12 games 12 goals
Motlop 2023 21 games 24 goals
Motlop 2024 7 games 6 goals
Motlop 2025 11 games 7 goals


If I remember correctly, we were pretty ordinary in some of those years. Eddie would have been second to Fev on our goal kicking list.


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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2025 8:26 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Sportsday @SENSportsday
"They're double the next worst team in the competition."

LISTEN | Hoyney on the Blues' bad kicking.

https://x.com/SENSportsday/status/1927284873036751318



dire.


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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2025 9:55 pm 
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DesEnglish wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Eddie Betts after 51 games - 52 goals
Motlop after 51 games - 49 goals

I couldn't believe that stat when I saw it so I looked it up myself
Difference is Eddie was 2 1/2 seasons to get to 51 games
Motlop is into his 4th season

I wonder back in 2007 were we saying why is Eddie getting a game

Eddie 2005 19 games 19 goals
Eddie 2006 20 games 20 goals
Eddie 2007 17 games 21 goals kicked 5 in last game of the year Kruezer Cup
Eddie 2008 18 games 24 goals

Motlop 2022 12 games 12 goals
Motlop 2023 21 games 24 goals
Motlop 2024 7 games 6 goals
Motlop 2025 11 games 7 goals


If I remember correctly, we were pretty ordinary in some of those years. Eddie would have been second to Fev on our goal kicking list.
5th 2005
2nd 2006
4th 2007
3rd 2008

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