We must surely draft a legitimate kpf with our 1st pick...?

Need to go mids this year early unless there's a no brainer KP player at first 2 picks.... Free agency end of next season I think Cameron is a restricted FA and a couple of others.

Need to get more midfield depth into the club, not enough quality depth

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We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

First pick, always best available.
Our needs in no order.
3/4 mids that can move forward.
Tall forward, Tall defender.
Quick flankers.

Can these players below become quality Afl players???
Cuningham, Rainbow, McKay, Silvagni, Curnow and JGM.

Can these players take the next step???
Jaksch, Lamb, Sunmer, Byrne, Boekhorst, Phillips, Graham, Plowman and Buckley.

Walker, Everitt and White, Servive because we still need some older players to help the kids.

Would give,
Smith, Gallucci and Gorringe one more year.


At years end, it's good by for, delisted and retired.
Tutt, Jones, Whiley, Gowers, Dick, Jamison, Armfield, Wood and Foster.

Just my silly opinion.

Great summary BB agree with everything you mentioned except the Armfiled call. I would keep.
Could not agree more re: draft - First round pick should always be best available and I would argue 2nd rounder as well, depending where it is, ie. Top 20-25.

Strong arguments there, regardless of accuracy (that's not a criticism-unless we crystal ball, we'll never know for certain)

I'm probably in the minority on this site but I think Whiley is assessed too hard. Would love to see him play 6-10 consecutive games

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We had the 3rd oldest average age side in the AFL for round 8. At the end of the year we need to get younger with drafted talent not more recycled players. The 25-30yr old state league battlers need to be moved on including unfortunately Jamo who looks like he's done.
White, Jamo, Armfield, Wood, Tutt, Whiley, Foster, and Dick to be moved on. Reprieve for Jones (contracted!) Rowe (1 more year) Smith and Rainbow need to show something in the seniors by next year even add Boekhorst to that list.

Surely you jest about Boekhorst. Before he was injured he was consistently playing well ... and gave us some badly needed pace!

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And surely you jest about Armfield...

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dane's trolling again

While I'm all for getting Battle as my first option, that really depends on availability. Otherwise it is definitely best available pick and no other forward is looking like a 1st rounder atm. But I hope we get Ezekiel Frank in the 3rd round (not KPF yet I know but I like what I hear of him).

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I know where you are coming from scotto but....

I don't think we need to drop 7 players next year for a 1st, 2nd, 3rd (Doggies) 3rd and 4th (if quality is there) round pick ie 5 new players. Wood is a rookie. But then again we will need to promote Byrne and maybe Sheehan if his body holds up and he shows some form.

Armfield and Boekhurst have shown why they belong on our list. So I don't agree on those two. I think White signed a 2 year contract.

We only took 5 quality players from the draft last year and 2 of those were from extra picks we received for Hendo and Yarran and the rest were from GWS, GC and Adelaide.

At this stage I am sure Tutt, Dick and Jammo will be gone come years end, and some of the others are likely candidates to go too.

I'm expecting because Bolton has made the environment at Carlton an attractive destination again, we may attract a big name recruit for 2017 and another in 2018. So there may be a surprise Trade to be had again.

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I don't see Gallucci, Gorringe or Smith surviving to be honest, from what we have seen at this stage.

Jones will stay as he is contracted for 2017, Army if fit will play on too. Graham and Buckley will be in trouble too.

Agree Scotto we at the end of year absolutely need some more young talent and elite talent through the draft and we were 3 rd oldest side but I think that this average age figure is a little skewed for the following reaons

If both Weitering and Curnow are fit they come straight in to team and reduce average age - moreover in particular Plowman/Sumner /lamb all are relatively inexperienced because of injury and initially because of the strength of GWS list so at 21,22,23 years of age should have plenty of footy left in them even though they are beyond 21 years of age - I would also take a similar view of Byrne who is only at a fledgling stage of his career because of circumstances injury and Irish is 21 years old

I think therefore senior games played is a better measure than age in this case

Correct me if I'm wrong, this year's draft pretty much looks the opposite of last year's in that it's fairly deep but not with as much talent at the top. I think we can afford to have one or two more draft picks than we are used to.

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I just wonder whether we might not know this until after the national draft

In my estimation 31 players used for senior matches this year so on target to have a good look at the list prior to offseason

Not sure this needed clarification but we were 3rd oldest team last round but entered 2016 with the 10th oldest list

Obviously stacked with older blokes last week

30 according to Champion Data/the AFL

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thanks for confirmation Jimmae but 22 playing tomorrow plus Kreuz buckley whiley casboult bokehurst Curnow jamo graham Phillips - makes 31 after Saturdays match and on the basis of Thursday night selection for round 9