rooboy wrote:
AGRO wrote:
What part of Henderson has been suffering from Osteo pubis all year and Kruezer has been labouring with knee problems all year is crap????
And Ratten has been playing and aggravating their issues when he could have been playing Bower, Thornton and not persisting with playing Kreuzer under his silly play 3 ruckman system.
And it was Ratten's decision to delist O'hAilpin who would have been more than handy right now.
Poor list management, poor player management and poor coaching all with Ratten's Finger prints all over it.
Crap I don't think so ............ rooboy hey.????
Hendo osteo pubis - how does that happen in an afl system? hardly the coaches fault and there is no way he would have got cleared to play if he wasn't right last week.........
Kreuzer played the house down one week against Collingwood and can't run the next - i'd hardly say that is the coaches fault either... imagine what crap you would have given him if we omitted him post collingwood game....
Ratten's decision to delist o'hailpin? who is on the list management committee? is it just the coach? is there not buy in from the ceo / recruiters / footy manager - how did u know it was rats that wanted him gone and not the others?
poor list management - is not the coaches domain - its not like carlton is run like what ross lyon had at st kilda, its a far more consultive environment where the list management team i am sure have a greater say than just the coach
poor player management - is fitness and conditioning responsibility surely
poor coaching - is hard to judge because great teams speak of continuity and we haven't had any based on the other 2 facets - when we did or had talent available at disposal the team looked good and on improve - we beat pies twice - u could argue to flukes if ur the absolute synic but we didn't get close to them last year
are kangaroos not australian? (rooboy)
i can't believe people can just blanket the coach for everything when again they just guess.....
Great post, potting the coach for everything is an AFL pastime and has been for as long as I have been following footy.
It is ridiculous to think that people would even look at the situation in any other way, injuries of no consequence, continuity and the confidence that it builds, of no consequence, mistakes made by other people in the club (people who are supposed to be good at their jobs) of no consequence, trades and delistings made that seemed OK at the time ie: Shaun Grigg, most people on this board were reasonably happy with this trade at the time, but hindsight is a wonderful thing isn't it?
I would love to see some of the people who post here come up with reasonable and logical assessments of what has gone wrong rather than heap everything on the coach, it seems to me to be an easyout, but I guess that what coaching from behind a keyboard gets you, it's a bit like being the best player ever and always making the right decisions when you are sitting on level 3 at the MCG, easy to be an expert and have all the answers when you are sitting in the stands.
I have no doubt that there have been errors made at all levels of the club, some would be excusable some not so, but to lay it all on the coach is insane, particularly with the year we have had where nothing has gone right since round 4.
Pay the Man enough respect to coach out next season, and if there is no improvement and he has had a full list to pick from all season, then look at his job but please don't base it on this year because no coach could have done anything with the side, with what he has had to contend with this year.
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