To be frank - this is exactly what I thought of Yarran's game last week - I watched him pretty closely because of the wraps he has on him, but he didn't floor me with the intensity I was hoping to see of a first gamer.... I am very hopeful that it is something he will develop with a consistent run in the team, so I'm glad they left him in - but I hope that a player like Browne gets that same chance when he is eventually promoted......

In terms of how we're managing development - coaching is a trickier game than most give credit for - you'll never do it perfectly 100% of the time - the trick (just like playing) is to still do well enough that other people can step up and help the overall result.....

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we should beat collingwood..if we loose we have a serious problem whoever doesnt play the plan irrespective of who needs to be dropped

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How did you get to that conclusion?

Cloke has failed week in week out as a tall marking option and I would suggest that he was on his last warning last week (should have been on his 5th warning by then) and again he failed to make a yelp.

He was dropped, ommitted, discarded, sent to the Ants to find some form and hopefully take a mark against some shorties. He has not been able to regain some of his 2008 form (not that it was outstanding, but he definetely showed a lot of heart and took some good marks).

The conclusion I draw from the selections is that Setanta has been in better form than Cloke, is definetely faster, and the penny has finally dropped for the MC that slow players are not going to help us win games.

In the Ants where he belongs with another slow tall forward: Fisher.

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Bondi, the guys were just alluding to the fact Setanta was not named in the initial 25 man squad on Thursday and Cloke was.

You're obviously still upset with your boy Houla in the ants but seriously, take a breath mate.

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strong chance davis and swan are out.

http://www.magpies.net/nick/bb/viewtopic.php?t=50253

THey are handy outs. Them 2, DIdak and Fraser ( just) will make it easier for us. Cloke Thomas and ROcca are handy outs them though....

Davis serving week 2 of his in house suspension no doubt.

Collingwood are often at their best when they're underdogs.

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We don't have to worry then. Fraser isn't playing.

Budzy...sorry to have to put things this way, but can you please get off my back, you are seriosusly starting to irritate me.

Have a look at the post you quote. Where does it mention Houla?

You fail to comprehend my points re Houla and Setanta, and it seems to me there's a bit of personal targeting from you asking me to take a breath. The points I make are simple.

That's two weeks in a rowyou target me for my comments and position on Cloke and Wigglers form, and as you may have noticed the hopelessly out of form Cloke has been rightly ommitted. I must be onto something. What do you think about that?

In the above post I just made a suggestion to the question asked as to why Setanta would have been named ahead of Cloke when Setanta wasn't even named in the squad.

I don't care that Setanta and Houla are dropped or sidelined, I'm concerned that Ratts has chosen to retain players who are playing worse footy than the 2 who he's dropped; that's all. I've made that really clear, I've presented data etc, so it's not about sooking about Houla, it's about my club and the results of the last 5 rounds.

And you know how passionate supporters can be. about their club? Don't you? Well incase you haven't noticed, I'm passionate.

This Houla shit between you and I goes back years, when you were having a go at his haircut etc, so if you can continue to focus on Houla and his issues, that's fine with me, but leave me out of it. I do not need your advise week after week.

You need to read my posts with intent to comprehend, otherwise, just skip my posts if you can't do that.

Don't tell me to take a breath when I'm trying to add value and substance to a debate because I find that comment to be subtle enough to be considered sleezy, subliminal and offensive.

Lets get back to the footy.

So why do you think Setanta was named as an emergency and Cloke's name was completely discarded from the squad and completely ommitted? asks Deano 35

TBB gave his opinion, I gave mine, now how about you play ball and contribute to the discussion

Do you think Ratts may be worried about Cameron's dad's response perhaps? Just another suggestion from the think tank.

Deano 35 is just looking for reasons for that. As for me, it's really obvious why he isn't even in the squad.

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The reason he has been dropped is because he is a very verage footballer...too slow and doesnt tick many boxes. Other than pack marking (which is almost non existent now) what else does he bring to the table? And I agree with you Wiggins should have been omitted as well.

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We're flowered.

Congratulations guys. I won't be making any $100 bets this week.

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Hang in there Mandy we have a very poor record against undermanned teams this year...

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Beware the injured side

And we have been ordinary from the second half of round 2


I hope we lose
Ifind it hard to say it but I do because the MC had a chance to make a statement and they havent

Thornton good mark and good on the one on one contests but is too slow doesnt kick the ball with enough purpose
Inshort not good enough

Stevens no defensive skills weak efforts game has caught up with him

Wiggins and Russell do not have footybrains. Good in some areas but simply not up to it consistently at AFL level
Cloke too slow
Hadley not good enough. poor kick too slow seems like he plays injured


Yet after a pathetic efffort against the Dockers only Cloke gets dropped.

I find that simply unbelievable

IMO Stevens shoud be dropped. He has become a liability to the team
Wiiggins last 5 weeks have been ordinary. Not good enough.
Hadley not good enough

Thornton can be spared the hangmans noose for now but defenders need to attack with purpose and he doesnt do this


Perfect opportunity to bring in Anderson, Browne and O'hailpin who I reckon for some reason makes us a better team

I would have Ando in defense. Would love Armfield on the ball.He would add grunt to it.

nd one change Pathetic MC

One win from 5 matches

If we lose It must mean we have to take a new path.

The MC is weak and rooted

Question: Could someone please explain to me how to include attributed quotes in a posting (boxes within boxes etc...)?

Request: Although I would like to know how to do it, could I humbly suggest we ease up on doing that when the responses get too many - after all, I thought that was kind of what the forum does anyway: we each respond to each others comments. I think its a great tool when used in moderation, especially when referring to a posting from much earlier but when it is too long it is surely superfluous?
(Perhaps we are trying to mimick the way we have been bringing the ball out of defense lately...)

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Firstly agree with all the names mentioned above except the part about being kind to Thornton...

Just curious though...let us assume we have to take a new path...what and who do you see this involving?

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its funny (weird, not haha) that reading through that collingwood thread, the ferals are saying the exact same thign about their match committee. I guess we're not the only one's that are being frustrated by what seems to be obvious MC errors

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Believe it. We're definitely as confused as you are.

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I reckon THornton will play forward. Looked like that at training today.

I agree with some of your points there Keogh but you have called so many things "pathetic" lately it has lost its punch.

If you are expecting a flag in the next two years you may aswell take a break from footy. It takes a lot longer unless you have a lot of luck and some freakish talent like the Hawks. It takes time to sift through the list and ease players into the big league. Be patient and you will be rewarded. No point stamping your feet and demanding wins when you really have no clue what is going on at the club. Slow and steady wins the race.

Once you get down to training and talk to those close to the action you realise all the bits and pieces that pop up on sites like this are of no real relevence to what is really going on.

On the news they showed Davis training and said he was playing. Medhurst didnt train with the main group however.