Pagan's clouding my judgement.

Right now, just about everyone looks a better option than denis.

Longmire? He'll be just like Roos, won't he? Check.

Voss? The next Matthews. Do it.

Bond? Looks intelligent. Played for Carlton. Sign him up.

Thomas? He hates ruckmen, we don't have one, perfect.

Ayres? Great hair. Can't hurt. Plus we'll immediately double the number of great young players on our list, with 'the Murphy's and the Walker's and the Kennedy's and the Gibbs' we'll suddenly have.

Neesham? He was merely ten years ahead of his time, with his keepings-off water polo stuff. That's premiership football these days. Unleash the Neesh!

Snowy off the trams? I've heard Pagan speak of this man often. If he's familiar with Route 19, I say give him a crack.

Gieshan? Ummmm.... aaaaaaahhh... shit, let's see...... he once, no.... the job he's doing with the ump...... errrr.... no.

Mark Harvey will be an interesting one to watch given that Steven Icke worked with him at Freo last year. One way or another it would be an informed decision.

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I played with Alphington (Northcote Parks junior affiliate) and for Northcote Park the year Peter joined the club, just before he became coach.

Not exactly a man who dices words, more someone who leads by example out on the field. Good thinker/strategist (obvious straight away playing with him), had a lot of time for me and a lot of the other young fellas and took a team with an already decent amount of talent to a flag (I didn't hear about back-to-back flags).

That must of been awsome Sparky
I guess i was wrong about back to back flags... I thought there were a couple at least though....


So what do you think about having Dean as a senior afl coach??

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http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/ ... 22,00.html

Hmm, is Roos on the defensive about the Carlton coaching job already?!

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Agree 100% with Roos.

Too big a job these days just to waltz straight in.

At least one year as an assistant just to get a feel of the whole thing is needed.

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If Ratten coaches then I think if you sign Voss as an assistant then you are undermining Ratten and virtually assigning him the role of caretaker coach with a sword over his head.....
I also think you might have Voss doing a Worsfold...a season or two with us to learn a bit and then straight back to Brisbane for the senior job when Matthews contract expires...

If we want Voss then I think we have to offer him the senior job and if we want Ratten to coach then I wouldnt be offering Voss an assistants role.....thats just my opinion...

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Thats it in a nutshell for those 2.

There are other options. Someone like paul Roos wouldnt be threatened by haveing Voss around. How you would get Roos is another question.

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This is the man we should be seeking - Mr Pratt - open the cheque book for this man - give him what he wants - he understands how to develop a team and get them to play to their strengths.

A must read.....

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/a ... 88725.html

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I want Ratts and I want Voss , don't make me decide .... maybe we can introduce the era of co-coaches

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He is unattainable. West Coast have deeper pockets than Carlton. They want him to coach there for 20 years. Scratch him off the list

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That's garbage .

When you've got a list that consists of Judd, Cousins, Kerr, Cox etc you can play however you want.

The team's in auto pilot as was Brisbane of a couple of years back.

Not sure if Worsfold is the man for us anyway......West Coast has to be one of the easier coaching gigs going around. You would need to bring the WC admin/recruiters and probably their best 5 players and you might get the same results. I think Worsfold was a perfect fit for WC at the time, a faithfull son with a big reputation as being a hard man coming to a club that was rebuilding with everything else in place. Worsfold never had to sell the club to sponsors, rattle tins or beg for members. Judd and Kerr peaking, Cox a gift from god off the rookie list.....it was all there just waiting for him to organise and plan a premiership.

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Chris Bond.

Tell me about the star forwards Worsfold has, or the gun defenders. they are a well coached team with a super-extraordinary midfield

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I wonder if our coach has read this article from Roos about people in the media

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,865 ... 11,00.html


I liked this bit

"I think people have tried to understand the game a little more, but there is still some of that 'kick it long, get it in quick and contested mark' (mentality)," Roos said.

"But Tony McGuinness, a great mate of mine who started work at Port and was in the media beforehand, he said something that really hit home for me.

"That was what he worked out when he became an assistant coach and that was if you kick it in long every game you are going to lose 22 games.

"That was interesting for someone who had been out of the game for a while and had been in the media ... he said if you do that every week you are going to get killed."

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The worrying thing about all this speculation, especially Voss being declared a super coach based on the fact that he was a great player with no coaching experience, and Ratts based on the fact that he was a great Carlton player with a little bit of experience, is a worry.

Let's hope against hope we don't do the old Carlton thing of appointing a name, rather than considering and interviewing all prospects and picking the best. That may be Ratts, may be Chris Bond, could be anyone.

This thread looks suspiciously like those in Britts last days when many TCers hailed the new Pagan messiah. Some of those people are now the one's who think he is hopeless. The strengths they lauded are now raised as weaknesses. Can we please learn from our mistakes. Interview thoroughly, just don't have Sticks follow his instincts, he might make Stephen O'Reilly coach.

Also as George Harris and others have pointed out, Paul Roos comments in the Hun are very good and are what a number of us have expressed in this thread.

Darren Glass AA Fullback
Adam Hunter....probably the best utility player impact wise.
Wirrapunda...very nice backpocket player.

Maybe the lack of star fowards also says something about the reliance on one or two star fowards rather than getting your goals from a wider variety of sources...

What Worsfold did was get rid of weak players who couldnt cut it......and keep the players who could and add others who play his style and we know his style was to run straight at the footy and dont take prisoners..... softcocks dont get a gig at WC...wide running sweepers on mass dont exist. He prefers to recruit kids like Selwood and Waters who are tough units.
Players who we rate and salivate over like Houlihan wouldnt be permitted to wear a WC jumper.....thats the difference..

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How does super coach Roos explain the Kangas pulling his pants down only a couple of weeks ago . Also, how does he explain how he had his side playing against Port - very long and direct - a complete contradiction to his trade mark game plan. Any coincidence that it was barely 12 hours after the Hawks/Saints debacle?

Please, don't give me bullsh!i possession footy, it's just plain boring .

ie he's a great coach. (Wordfold)

roos too btw

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