Sidefx wrote:
jim wrote:
3 years Melbourne go from 2 wins to 10 under their rebuild and played great finals footy on last night after 5 years. By contrast, we've managed to move in the opposite direction to crash to two wins. Difference? Paul Roos v Brendon Bolton.
Melbourne pushed finals after 4 years. After our first 2 years, 7 wins, 6 wins on top of many a closed loss, that should've been an expectancy here after 4 years. After winning 6 in year 2 and leading another 7 times in last qtrs pushing for finals next year, making it or not, 2 more years down the track. If it doesn't happen it's a failure of our coach.
Can't believe people think, 4 years in, that 6 wins next year is acceptable. We did that in 2017 FFS! We should've got that this year allowing for our injuries. That side last game was good enough for that. We won inside 50s and lost by 100pts. How the hell does that happen. That is an indictment on our coaching, the structures, game plan.
So.........the Demons won the inside 50 count today yet lost by 66pts and were goalless in the first half.......please explain?
It is interesting how the Tigers wanted to turn their regime upside down, but withstood the pressure to do so and won the flag.
There were questions raised in the media last year (let alone massive betting) on whether the Collingwood or West Coast Eagles Coach would be sacked first in 2017. Both survived and Buckley and Simpson ate the Grand Final coaches in 2018.
The manic style of footy played by Tigers, Dees and Pies initiated by Ratten, with a mosquito fleet in the forwardline of Betts Garlett Yarran and Walker, fed by Judd, Murphy, Gibbs, Stevens, Carrazzo and Simpson, which worked, and since proven as a credible game plan, but despite injuries Ratten was sacked and replaced by Malthouse, because Carltonians, fed by media and rumour, lost patience at hovering between 6th and 10th. Malthouse changed the momentum and Carlton ended up on the bottom of the ladder and Malthouse was sacked mid contract.
I like the defensive style and mindset Bolton created over this first 2 years. I think he added an offensive layer too early this year because of media pressure (which some Carlton fans jumped onto as gospel). With Bolton's defensive model we could frustrate teams, with a style which stifled the opposition scoring (albeit unattractive) and as we mature and improve our speed, skill and additional layers to our game plan, we could win close games with surprise offensive and brutal attack ala Swans, when we wanted to.
Good things take time to evolve, and this has never been truer than this rebuild where we have turned over 40 players in 3 years to replace them with kids with talent. They need time to mature and develop. More speed, muscle and better ball movement as we mature, as is the case with all teams. Our list profile tells us we are too young to succeed at this stage.
I was in Melbourne over the weekend and a Doggies supporter I hadn't seen for a long time questioned Jack Silvagni's ability. I told him no one has a crystal ball to see what becomes of Jack, but from the age of 18-20, and that's all he is, 20yo, he's shown plenty of footy IQ for his age and has plenty of highlights to show off his potential. I told him it's no fair or smart to judge kids before they turn 22-23, when they mature.
We chose the patient rebuild path and we are midstream with that plan, and I expect improvement in 2019 and 2020 is still the year I expect finals, but have my fingers crossed for a flag this decade.
Patience and belief we are doing this in a measured way and properly.
We've waited 3 years to get to this point. Now we top up with more mature players, with class and skills to grow with the kids we have drafted/traded for oozing with class and skill.