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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2020
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:10 pm 
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Mike Fitzpatrick

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keogh wrote:
Not hindsight
It was obvious
As I said and nobody has answered
How does the club s recruiting department oversee the WAFL

Keogh you only look for the negatives in the clubs recruiting.
The fact is we have arguably the best list of U23 age players in the competition (afl.com.au has us 2nd behind the Lions).

How about trying to be positive and stop being the Greta Thunberg of TC.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2020
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:13 pm 
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dannyboy wrote:
Picket is 27 in 3 years he would be 30 - could be good but worth the risk? Tigers, they are ready now so grabbed him now not for any 3 years down the track. That's the difference, it's the getting there that is hard, once there choices really do open up. And arguments based on past events only mean something if at the moment you might have said - take picket! And even then, we really would need to wait 3 years to see.


Danny boy
Recruiting isn’t an exact science
But Pickett was miles ahead of anyone in the mid season draft
Proved it today on all counts
Why didn’t SOS pick him
We lack mid field rotations

Too be honest it @#$%&! shits me
It really does

The guy could be good for three years

One game today is better than anything Deluca will dish up in the next 10 year

We have a List Manager who is stubborn rigid and not as good as others
He is also a club legend who’s has his mate President in his back pocket

It’s the “old Carlton “ boys club rearing it’s ugly head
It costs you in 2019
This ain’t 1979


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2020
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:16 pm 
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It's a concern

We can't seem to find a real gem from late draft picks or state leagues

Richmond are miles ahead when it comes to recruiting

Although, I think their player development and it's game system make a huge difference

Their is no doubt in my mind player development is more important than early draft picks

Off field set up needs to improve at the Blues for us to start winning premierships like the Tiges


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2020
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:17 pm 
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Alex Jesaulenko

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keogh wrote:
dannyboy wrote:
Picket is 27 in 3 years he would be 30 - could be good but worth the risk? Tigers, they are ready now so grabbed him now not for any 3 years down the track. That's the difference, it's the getting there that is hard, once there choices really do open up. And arguments based on past events only mean something if at the moment you might have said - take picket! And even then, we really would need to wait 3 years to see.


Danny boy
Recruiting isn’t an exact science
But Pickett was miles ahead of anyone in the mid season draft
Proved it today on all counts
Why didn’t SOS pick him
We lack mid field rotations

Too be honest it @#$%&! shits me
It really does

The guy could be good for three years

One game today is better than anything Deluca will dish up in the next 10 year

We have a List Manager who is stubborn rigid and not as good as others
He is also a club legend who’s has his mate President in his back pocket

It’s the “old Carlton “ boys club rearing it’s ugly head
It costs you in 2019
This ain’t 1979
If SOS had drafted Pickett chances are he wouldn't have played as he was injured and only really proved his worth in the VFL finals which we weren't part of
After the last Pickett you would be a brave man to take a chance on another

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2020
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:20 pm 
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keogh wrote:
Not hindsight
It was obvious
As I said and nobody has answered
How does the club s recruiting department oversee the WAFL


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hindsight
/ˈhʌɪn(d)sʌɪt/
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noun
understanding of a situation or event only after it has happened or developed.
"with hindsight, I should never have gone"


Considering you didn't mention the blokes name until after he'd been selected, it sounds exactly like hindsight to me. :lol:
Give it up Keogh

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2020
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:41 pm 
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Craig Bradley

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I’ve have mentioned Pickett before when Deluca got drafted yonks ago
I won’t give it up
Face it
Sos once again has [REDACTED] it

You guys simply don’t get it even after today
Once again come someone tell me how our recruiting staff oversee the
WAFL
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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2020
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:03 pm 
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Craig Bradley

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Blue Vain wrote:
keogh wrote:
Not hindsight
It was obvious
As I said and nobody has answered
How does the club s recruiting department oversee the WAFL


Quote:
hindsight
/ˈhʌɪn(d)sʌɪt/
Learn to pronounce
noun
understanding of a situation or event only after it has happened or developed.
"with hindsight, I should never have gone"


Considering you didn't mention the blokes name until after he'd been selected, it sounds exactly like hindsight to me. :lol:
Give it up Keogh


List Management thread 2019
Sent by me 27/5/2019
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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2020
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:28 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
LOB's upside is enormous.. long accurate kick, huge tank, good at tackling just needs to fill out.


Was this meant to be funny?


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2020
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:30 pm 
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Harry Vallence

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dannyboy wrote:
Picket is 27 in 3 years he would be 30 - could be good but worth the risk? Tigers, they are ready now so grabbed him now not for any 3 years down the track. That's the difference, it's the getting there that is hard, once there choices really do open up. And arguments based on past events only mean something if at the moment you might have said - take picket! And even then, we really would need to wait 3 years to see.


How old is Simmo?


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 Post subject: List Management 2020
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:33 pm 
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If you already have a talented experienced nucleus of players when you add fringe speculative picks they can play with freedom in a mature and structured system that was already consistently winning. Send any of these players to a bottom 4 club and they won’t look as good. They are picking well, but the whole team environment lets them thrive. Being surrounded by 13-14 experienced players helps. Deluca might have even done the same at Richmond.

We as a club won’t be able to do that for another couple of years.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2020
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:53 pm 
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Robert Walls

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keogh wrote:
dannyboy wrote:
Picket is 27 in 3 years he would be 30 - could be good but worth the risk? Tigers, they are ready now so grabbed him now not for any 3 years down the track. That's the difference, it's the getting there that is hard, once there choices really do open up. And arguments based on past events only mean something if at the moment you might have said - take picket! And even then, we really would need to wait 3 years to see.


Danny boy
Recruiting isn’t an exact science
But Pickett was miles ahead of anyone in the mid season draft
Proved it today on all counts
Why didn’t SOS pick him
We lack mid field rotations

Too be honest it @#$%&! shits me
It really does

The guy could be good for three years

One game today is better than anything Deluca will dish up in the next 10 year

We have a List Manager who is stubborn rigid and not as good as others
He is also a club legend who’s has his mate President in his back pocket

It’s the “old Carlton “ boys club rearing it’s ugly head
It costs you in 2019
This ain’t 1979


1.stop making baseless extrapolative comments.
2. try and control your liquid excretions every time to talk about the WAFL. You live in WA so you're just as pro WA biased as you allege SOS is against

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2020
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:56 pm 
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keogh wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
keogh wrote:
Not hindsight
It was obvious
As I said and nobody has answered
How does the club s recruiting department oversee the WAFL


Quote:
hindsight
/ˈhʌɪn(d)sʌɪt/
Learn to pronounce
noun
understanding of a situation or event only after it has happened or developed.
"with hindsight, I should never have gone"


Considering you didn't mention the blokes name until after he'd been selected, it sounds exactly like hindsight to me. :lol:
Give it up Keogh


List Management thread 2019
Sent by me 27/5/2019
7.33 am
Read em and weep


7.33PM. After he'd be selected. :lol:
Try reading it yourself

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2020
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:57 pm 
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Rod Ashman
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keogh wrote:
Anyone of u blokes wondering about the
Pickett over Deluca debate
The importance of the WAFL
After what you have seen in the first 3 quarters today
Would love Pickett for a few years
SOs well and truly has [REDACTED] up here
Love the counter argument
And don’t get personal

@#$%&! how many tackles Deluca lays or if he is 4 years younger
As I said bad recruiting kills ya


We'd all love Pickett, but at that time of the year with only having won a couple of games in over a year, we weren't in a position to gamble on a bloke who still had 10 weeks recovery from a hand injury before he played any football. Bringing him over from WA was seen as a risk, but one that Richmond could take because people tend to be a little less homesick when they are playing in premierships and therefore enjoying their football. I assume this is why Dunkley was also overlooked - we needed someone for the short term and couldn't use this mid season draft with a longer term view. I would think the strategy for next years would be different.

You shouldn't be highlighting that we didn't recruit Pickett in the middle of this year. There was plenty of opportunity for all clubs to recruit him well before that, as his skills were well known in all AFL circles prior to Tim Kelly being recruited.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2020
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:09 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
keogh wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
keogh wrote:
Not hindsight
It was obvious
As I said and nobody has answered
How does the club s recruiting department oversee the WAFL


Quote:
hindsight
/ˈhʌɪn(d)sʌɪt/
Learn to pronounce
noun
understanding of a situation or event only after it has happened or developed.
"with hindsight, I should never have gone"


Considering you didn't mention the blokes name until after he'd been selected, it sounds exactly like hindsight to me. :lol:
Give it up Keogh


List Management thread 2019
Sent by me 27/5/2019
7.33 am
Read em and weep


7.33PM. After he'd be selected. :lol:
Try reading it yourself


It pll mpkes aerfect sense now pfter yeprs of repding Keogh's aosts, He cpnt tell the difference between the plahpbeticpl letters a and p

And well done to Det Sgt BV from the cyber bullshit squad for picking up the discrepancy

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2020
PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:11 pm 
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Two things came out of today’s game that made me think about our future.
1. How good is their midfield, they’re miles ahead of the comp with their structure, style and depth.
2. We shouldn’t be knocking back any of their players that want to come to the club. Because at the minimum they could bring over some of their structure and style to help guide our kids.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2020
PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:06 am 
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Harry Vallence

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showbag wrote:
keogh wrote:
Anyone of u blokes wondering about the
Pickett over Deluca debate
The importance of the WAFL
After what you have seen in the first 3 quarters today
Would love Pickett for a few years
SOs well and truly has [REDACTED] up here
Love the counter argument
And don’t get personal

@#$%&! how many tackles Deluca lays or if he is 4 years younger
As I said bad recruiting kills ya


We'd all love Pickett, but at that time of the year with only having won a couple of games in over a year, we weren't in a position to gamble on a bloke who still had 10 weeks recovery from a hand injury before he played any football. Bringing him over from WA was seen as a risk, but one that Richmond could take because people tend to be a little less homesick when they are playing in premierships and therefore enjoying their football. I assume this is why Dunkley was also overlooked - we needed someone for the short term and couldn't use this mid season draft with a longer term view. I would think the strategy for next years would be different.

You shouldn't be highlighting that we didn't recruit Pickett in the middle of this year. There was plenty of opportunity for all clubs to recruit him well before that, as his skills were well known in all AFL circles prior to Tim Kelly being recruited.


Don’t understand the risk in selecting Dunkley and Pickett and why we had to pick Deluca...

What did Deluca provide during the games he played that we couldn’t do without?

Dunkley was considered the best youngster, and is a mid as well, a major need for us...and Pickett was the most talented player at the draft, who is a small forward, can through the midfield, and in the right age bracket, all major needs for us... didn’t matter if he didn’t play for us until 2020

I would have thought we couldn’t afford to take the retread again, which we’ve done time and time again with little or no success...


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2020
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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2020
PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:31 am 
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Would be nice if the critics can outline who we should select this recruiting period.
Tell us what we should give away for the players we’re targeting and who we should draft with the selections we have....

Just put those thoughts in your signature so you don’t have to come back and post the same shit over and over again in 2020....


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2020
PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:48 am 
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doofdoof wrote:
Would be nice if the critics can outline who we should select this recruiting period.
Tell us what we should give away for the players we’re targeting and who we should draft with the selections we have....

It doesn't work like that

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 Post subject: List Management 2020
PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 8:53 am 
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Sidefx wrote:
Two things came out of today’s game that made me think about our future.
1. How good is their midfield, they’re miles ahead of the comp with their structure, style and depth.
2. We shouldn’t be knocking back any of their players that want to come to the club. Because at the minimum they could bring over some of their structure and style to help guide our kids.


I agree, I posted this in the finals thread...

To me it shows that they are a champion team with a champion game style/plan. They do not need to rely on their champions, as long as a few are available to bolster the rest of the team which is made up of highly agile and quick athletes who mentally thrive on kamikaze tactics.


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