That's the point that keeps repeating in my head.

The ACCC, as Melvey suggests have an interest to drag RP 's reputation through the mud. The longer it goes, I bet, that the mud on ACCC, in this case, starts to rub off on RP.

It's our tax dollars that Samuels is burning; that shits me.

Samuels can go burn his own money with his unethical vendetta; he's done nothing fr the tax payer since he got in.

Samuels is evil, and with power he is dangerous. We the tax payer are the ones exposed.

I'm livid!! Not because I'm a Carltonian, but because this goose is on a crusade using my hard earned cash to fuel a personal vendetta; an absolute disgrace.

I'm just a tax payer. What can I do to bring Samuel's abuse of power and privelege to a stop in this case? Is he accountable? To whom? How can this idiot be stopped? How do I stop such a waste of my money?

Anyone?

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Maybe we can learn something from the Athenians in the news, who don't put up with crap.

What does it say about us, as a society, as this flawed vendetta is allowed to continue.

Samuels must be stopped and dropped. This is a disgrace.

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One would assume that the ACCC is ultimately answerable to the Finance ministry.

Maybe an overwhelmingly large and concerted letter-writing campaign is in order?

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Chat to Howard 'buoyed Pratt'



ACCC aimed to get Pratt in box

Is it true that Graeme Samuels can be found in Scunthorpe?

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Pratt kept in dark on charges: ex-judge

The longer this goes on, the more that the accc lose credibility it seems... And rightly so.


Is it possible this case could drag on for years, or is it more than likely to be wrapped up by mid 09'??

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ok...not wanting to defend a bunch of economists and lawyers here, but the fact remains that if Richard Pratt was anyone but a Carlton man - most of you would be baying for his blood - so get off your high horses.



The ACCC - and Graeme Samuel is answerable to the treasurer.



Well - not as far as consumer protection goes - nor on regulating some utilities. The ACCC does lots of good - you just don't hear or read about them unless you go looking for them.



This is historical hatred and Pratt made Samuel look like an idiot when GS was a consultant to BHP in the late 80's and that's not quickly forgotten.

I'm not particularly fond of this dragging on either...but your money will continue to be wasted - that i can be sure of.



The ACCC aren't conducting a PR exercise here.



Despite earlier predictions that this could go on for a very long time - I think it'll be over by this time next year at the latest. But that's not based on much - just personal opinion for the most part.



...It'd just be used on something else if it weren't for Pratt...I'm more concerned at the fact that we have a Premier that no one voted for who is destroying this State day by day. Give me Graeme Samuel any day of the week.

We live in a parliamentary democracy. No one votes for the Premier in State politics, nor for the PM in Federal politics. If you want that right, you'll need to emigrate to the US.

Everyone knows that the party leader who wins the election can be removed by his parliamentary colleagues (Keating for Hawke) or can retire before serving a full term. And the replacement isn't usually hard to foretell.

Dr Sherrin, I really wonder whether it's really economists and lawyers talking here.

No lawyers that I know would talk like that

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Nah, not me.

When Vizard was found guilty, I hoped the law would do the right thing and he was going to suffer the consequences of being exposed. History shows he got off lightly. Whilst I didn't agree, I felt he'd done enough damage to himself, and the decision is the decsision.

That's not the case with Samuels' attacking the man on some hopeful premise (imagining the govt could pin RP for whatever despite lost emails which would prove his case), and after a verdict/ settlement had been reached; a huge indictment on RP and his reputation... paid for in multi tens of millions to the govt).

He's an extortionist. He's trying to extort revenue to pay for his position.

I know the ACCC bvureaucracy continues to do good things; it's job. But Samuels hasn't been part of the every day 'good things' the ACCC does. Samuels has only one target , and it'd obvious, and it isn't the supermarkets, the oil refeinereis or Telstra.

Dr Sherrin, and any of his fans, IMO Samuels is a waste of space because he's wasting our tax dollars to finance his vendetta.

His time would be better spent on better causes.

Samuels needs to redirect his energies to look to improve his reputation and harness his potential for the betterment of society; not to a feud.

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From the age article:



According to the ACCC Amcor are truthful witnesses :

I think that you're missing a crucial point here Doc. The question isnt whether or not Pratt is guilty. He admitted guilt and copped the biggest fine in corportae history. What is objectionable is that haveing fessed up and taken his punishment including considerable public humiliation, he is now being charged again for the same crime. It reeks of vendetta and is not fair play. While the ACCC charges are most likely true, I doubt that Pratt will be found guilty. Justice won't be served by him being whacked twice for the same crime.
What this proves to everyone is that Samuels is shifty, conniving and untrustworthy. Who's going to want to co-operate with the ACCC in the future?

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Memo to Dick and Samuel- "Two wrongs don't make a right".......

Thats exactly what Pratts lawyer is arguing:

http://news.theage.com.au/national/prat ... -6zpy.html

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The key issue in the motions now before the Judge is to determine what evidence is admissable to the next stage of the criminal proceeding.

If the Statement of Agreed Facts is found to NOT be admissable as it contains a clause that states, in effect, that it cannot be used for any other legal proceeding, then it is likely that, in its absence as evidence, that the ASIC case will fail.

The question that is then to be determined is why ASIC has in mid course of the civil proceeding and before the criminal proceeding started that the clause that restricted the Statement of Agreed Facts to the civil matter could be used for a further legal proceeding (the criminal matter). It is this key issue that Robert Richter wants exposed and with its exposure,to reveal the true motivation of ASIC to persue the double jeopardy issue (civil and criminal proceedings that rely on the same body of evidence).