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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:07 am 
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If we accept that those TCers saying our recruiting over a long period has been shit, ARE correct ,then we can't lay all the blame on Mick.

TC rapidly moving into scapegoat territory.

But, I am becoming tired of Mick going to the media and shooting from the hip.

Just coach Mick, and let the contract stuff sort itself out.....INTERNALLY !

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:07 am 
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The game has passed malthouse by. his team selections are astounding, his gameplan archaic and his playing of favourites and personalities, deplorable.


This season could still be a success even we win only four games. As long as we publicly and sensationally sack malthouse by about round seven.

Ratten was sacked for much, much less.


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The most frustrating thing about the whole Malthouse saga is that we didn't learn the lessons of the Pagan era.
The similarities are uncanny.
Britain was a modern day coach who was struck down by a year of injuries and was sacked because we had a bad year.
Pagan came in with his game plan that didn't suit the playing list and set about pissing off players and brought in a whole bunch of players who couldn't quite make it at their clubs and a old favorite son .
It failed and we went backwards.
He we are 10 years on and we do exactly the same thing with Malthouse.
Only difference now is instead of Kouta we have Judd.
Liam Jones is our new Digby
Cam Wood is French
Tutt is Kenna
Everitt the new Teague
Daisy is Stevens.
Its like a horror movie that is repeated over and over again.
Malthouse and Pagan talk to people like they are below them and both are arrogant self centered pieces of shitte.
When Ratten left we were 2-3 years off having a crack now we are light years away

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:58 am 
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Braithy.
That would be a great look!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:58 am 
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I know everyone complains about hiring coaches without any proper process but I agree with others and see no reason not to GET VOSSY

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:00 am 
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I saw him on the recruit. Superstar coach.
Can't see a reason why VOSSY isn't already an AFL senior coach.
He can't fail!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:45 am 
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Effes wrote:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mick-malthouse-shouldnt-be-re-signed-by-carlton-as-coach-says-mark-maclure/story-fni5f5nx-1227293422567?from=herald%20sun_rss

Mick Malthouse shouldn’t be re-signed by Carlton as coach, says Mark Maclure

I saw Sellers post game on Fox saying this stuff.
I remember he said since MM came you wouldnt want to be the leading goal kicker at the club.
Walks...rewarded with pos. down back
Betts..gawn
Jiffy..gawn
Waite...gawn.
Should they sack MM he was asked..
Whatdyou reckon he says.
:lol:
Yeah..its not really funny is it.

Still lets see if things improve.
Im still hopeful.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:51 am 
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Drewgirl wrote:

Look at Gibbs with the Pang guy on Instagram, promoting his stupid clothes line with his tshirt. That's all our players care about- Money and business. There is no hurt about we lose, just excuses.



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:55 am 
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Quote:
“I suspect for Dawsey and Bernie it will be the same — everyone wants to now put the club first and if you’ve got players that are starting to do that those conversations become easier.”


the transition at Melbourne continues, as players begin to put the club first. what a novel approach that carlton hasn't seen since 1999.

not the coach putting the coach first ... not the players putting themselves and their brands & business and exquisite hair first. unlike carlton.

we are a joke outfit.


http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/paul-roos-doesnt-know-who-to-drop-from-winning-melbourne-line-up/story-fndv8pdq-1227293830533


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:38 pm 
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Dodo27 wrote:
Mick is a good Coach and his Record speaks for itself but the Scary part that I hope is not happening is that the Senior Players have Stopped playing for him and under him...

Murphy, Gibbs and few others just don't seem to be interested anymore... they are not putting their bodies on the line... they Seem lost, confused and fed up with Mick's game plan and team decisions...

As a Result, he has to go ASAP... A new Coach isn't going to change anything... We are still going to Struggle because we don't have the depth to cause any upsets but at least we can start Fresh with a Young Coach like Voss and Get some decent Recruiting Managers who can get us some early good Picks...It's the only way to rebuild...

STOP getting Recycled Rubbish who will never take the Club anywhere...


What sweeping generalisations to make after one game.

Because it couldn't be supported by last year where Gibbs won the B&F and made the AA squad.

And Sammy Docherty must be crap, you know, the guy who was our BOG and came top 10 in our B&F after no preseason & missing the first 6 games. Everitt too. Jaksch too.


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Zac doesn't think Malthouse contract is a distraction
He will get dropped this week
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2015-04-07/mic ... .mobileapp

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:22 pm 
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I'm going to add a note to reference this post for the discussion:

The 'distraction for assistants and players' comment was part of an interview with Damien Barrett which got attention on the Footy Show, but was only aired for the first time in full on the Sunday Footy Show.

To this point I have not found any evidence to support media comments that this has been mentioned on multiple occasions by Malthouse, merely that the relevant portion of the interview has been screened twice.

If this hold true, it is a huge, huge media blow up and part of that will be from the section of the boy's club that wants the Essendon* commentary washed by other controversial stories. The other part is the AFL press trying to justify their bloated assembly of staff by generating news where this is none.

Had he said this multiple times on multiple occasions we'd have reasons to be upset, but he made these comments in the pre-season, likely under a cloud of MLG shifting goal posts. I've no problem with this under specific circumstances myself, but let's not get carried away with the idea that Mick is beating some sort of drum atop Ikon Park and being a dial-a-quote loon on the situation.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:41 pm 
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Pull the other one Jim.
Do you think Malthouse didnt realise the ramifications of his comments? Do you think he didnt know the media would jump all over them? Oh wow! What a shock! The media has siezed his comments and blown them out of proportion. What a surprise! :lol:
He's been through the exact same thing before in 2011 when he put his own interests before the clubs again.

The man's not a fool. He's about to become the longest serving coach in the game. He knew exactly what he was doing.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:50 pm 
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Put simply no reason to sign him up until end of season, he isn't going anywhere.

My personal view is whoever coaches us next year wont be here in 4 years time as we are about to seriously bottom out. Thus probably having an experienced coach oversee a list rebuild may make more sense than the lucky deep new coaching market.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:48 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Pull the other one Jim.
Do you think Malthouse didnt realise the ramifications of his comments? Do you think he didnt know the media would jump all over them? Oh wow! What a shock! The media has siezed his comments and blown them out of proportion. What a surprise! :lol:
He's been through the exact same thing before in 2011 when he put his own interests before the clubs again.

The man's not a fool. He's about to become the longest serving coach in the game. He knew exactly what he was doing.

I gave a theory on why he made the comments already, my issue now is with media outlets suggesting he has repeatedly made these comments, which I think is categorically false.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:18 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Pull the other one Jim.
Do you think Malthouse didnt realise the ramifications of his comments? Do you think he didnt know the media would jump all over them? Oh wow! What a shock! The media has siezed his comments and blown them out of proportion. What a surprise! :lol:
He's been through the exact same thing before in 2011 when he put his own interests before the clubs again.

The man's not a fool. He's about to become the longest serving coach in the game. He knew exactly what he was doing.

I gave a theory on why he made the comments already, my issue now is with media outlets suggesting he has repeatedly made these comments, which I think is categorically false.


Jimmae is correct. Just using same comment over and over again. Media lives on stirring up controversy. If there is no controversy they will create it. In these web media times it has become painful.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:19 pm 
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MM's arrival at Royal Parade reminds me of Kevin Spacey in the shower

I am going to demand getting my useless sidekick Wiley, let him do all the hard work whilst I go around Australia networking my autobiography about how flower great I have been, comeback having done nothing to the playing list, announce we can win the flag, get my lovechild Daisy and give that Spud Wood one more chance thus pissing off Betts as well as falling out the only other consistent goal kicker of the last 10 years in Gartlett trading him fo some stratosphere pick on the draft support a pansy like Murphy to be captain then when the knives starts to be sharpened start working the media the people who I treat. Like shit most of the time to give me a flower contract extension

THen it's all downhill from here

As someone said before this Is Pagan all over again.old egomaniacs who have had their time.
But hey
You can always count on the turds who run the club to top up these old pricks super accounts with overpaid salaries

As I have said everytime I rant the board who are ultimately responsible for this mess need to go
It is going to take Costa or Koch to take control
Pratt
Germinder
Mathieson
Must go
They shall have no I mean no I flower influence on the club whatsoever


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 3:40 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Pull the other one Jim.
Do you think Malthouse didnt realise the ramifications of his comments? Do you think he didnt know the media would jump all over them? Oh wow! What a shock! The media has siezed his comments and blown them out of proportion. What a surprise! :lol:
He's been through the exact same thing before in 2011 when he put his own interests before the clubs again.

The man's not a fool. He's about to become the longest serving coach in the game. He knew exactly what he was doing.

I gave a theory on why he made the comments already, my issue now is with media outlets suggesting he has repeatedly made these comments, which I think is categorically false.



Who in media said he's repeatedly making the comments?
I havent read that?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 4:54 pm 
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Jimmae - You are mick's number 1 supporter.

Why do you think Mick should coach beyond this season? You seem to be the only one defending him.


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Blue Vain wrote:
jimmae wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Pull the other one Jim.
Do you think Malthouse didnt realise the ramifications of his comments? Do you think he didnt know the media would jump all over them? Oh wow! What a shock! The media has siezed his comments and blown them out of proportion. What a surprise! :lol:
He's been through the exact same thing before in 2011 when he put his own interests before the clubs again.

The man's not a fool. He's about to become the longest serving coach in the game. He knew exactly what he was doing.

I gave a theory on why he made the comments already, my issue now is with media outlets suggesting he has repeatedly made these comments, which I think is categorically false.



Who in media said he's repeatedly making the comments?
I havent read that?

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/carlton-bl ... mesdy.html

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Carlton coach Mick Malthouse has reiterated his desire to coach on in 2016, saying the club board should make a decision for the good of his players and coaches.

Malthouse, 61, is out of contract at the end of the season, with much speculation as to whether he will stay on for a fourth season.

Richmond's round one defeat of Carlton confirmed the club faces an uphill struggle to make the AFL finals, which could make or break the veteran's future.

But Malthouse told Channel Nine's Sunday Footy Show that it wasn't his own future he was most concerned about. He said his assistant coaching group, which includes Dean Laidley, John Barker and Brad Green, were also out of contract, which could create uncertainty at Princes Park.


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/m ... 7293422567

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Malthouse, who comes out of contract at the end of the season, again made public his desire to coach the Blues in 2016 on the weekend.

However Maclure, a three-time premiership player with the Blues, questioned Malthouse’s decision to bring up his contract situation so early in the year, after last year claiming he has happy to delay talks until the end of the season.

“I don’t think many people are listening to Mick at the moment, to tell you the truth. Whatever he says doesn’t matter,” 360’s Maclure told Fox Footy’s Easter Monday coverage.

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